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[Politics] Matt Hancock/Government Break the Law



Kinky Gerbil

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Jul 16, 2003
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Just be swept under the carpet because of covid

Can already see the excuses of we had to do it, even if there is an investigation after all of this most of this lot will be long gone
 




Deportivo Seagull

I should coco
Jul 22, 2003
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Why would you think that him previously owning a pub is relevant but his actually owning a plastics business is not?

I still don't know what the issue is here, because no-one else seems to be interested. Is the issue that this man supplied inadequate or unsuitable or overpriced goods that should never have been ordered? Or is the issue that he is an acquaintance or friend of Hancock and therefore, even though he supplied goods at a fair price that were fit for purpose, the NHS would have been better off without those test tubes?

Or of course, the issue may be more basic than that and people may be suggesting that the government acted in too much of a hurry and should have pursued the normal, several months long, purchasing procedure. Was the government right to treat this pandemic as an emergency?

The issue is that a number of better placed and experience companies were turned down and that he a handcock discussed it personally via WhatsApp. I’m involved in bidding for government tenders and that is not how it’s done .... ever!


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beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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The issue is that a number of better placed and experience companies were turned down and that he a handcock discussed it personally via WhatsApp. I’m involved in bidding for government tenders and that is not how it’s done .... ever!


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is that true or inferred from a version of the story? and if it is true, why has legal action not looked at specifics of contracts, rather than the incredibly narrow question of publishing paperwork?
 


Hugo Rune

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is that true or inferred from a version of the story? and if it is true, why has legal action not looked at specifics of contracts, rather than the incredibly narrow question of publishing paperwork?

Where there is smoke......

There are a huge amount of contracts still unpublished, this is the crux of the case being pursued by The Good Law Project.

The Government have had months & months to publish but are sitting on them like they have done with the Russian report. You might counter that publishing them is not the priority in a pandemic? However, for me, it’s more likely that they are worried about the public reaction to a litany of fast-tracked-contracts-for-mates and are waiting for the conclusion of a very successful vaccine programme to air their dirty stinking laundry in the hope that the public won’t care about them lining associates pockets with millions of tax payers’ pounds.
 


A1X

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Or of course, the issue may be more basic than that and people may be suggesting that the government acted in too much of a hurry and should have pursued the normal, several months long, purchasing procedure. Was the government right to treat this pandemic as an emergency?

So because it was a pandemic then "anything goes"?
 






Thunder Bolt

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is that true or inferred from a version of the story? and if it is true, why has legal action not looked at specifics of contracts, rather than the incredibly narrow question of publishing paperwork?

Legal action is ongoing. The GoodLaw project has more evidence in the pipeline.
 


beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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Legal action is ongoing. The GoodLaw project has more evidence in the pipeline.

i see, the way its been reported was as if this the conclusion.
 








Depressing how apoplectic some people get over a few statues of racists being removed or immigrants being given shelter but this just doesn’t seem to bother them.
Most corrupt government in modern times.
They rode in on the back of Brexit with the express purpose of rinsing the U.K. for all they can get their hands on. And if people die while they do that, they do not care less.
They all need slinging in jail. Scum.

This. The statue thing is pathetic mind, we should learn from history, not erase it. But yes, I do very much agree.
 




clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
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This. The statue thing is pathetic mind, we should learn from history, not erase it. But yes, I do very much agree.

Taking down a statue isn't erasing history.

A statue doesn't represent "history", it represents the historical and current celebration of it. Each has to be taken on it's own merits but there are a number of statues in London (for instance) that should not be displayed in a civil space in a civil society.

Otherwise you'd be asking for numerous statues of Stalin to be reinstated in the old Eastern European Communist Bloc.
 




CHAPPERS

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Jul 5, 2003
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...k-high-court-covid-dido-harding-b2015415.html

Former health secretary Matt Hancock broke equality law when appointing Conservative peer Dido Harding to an emergency health job during the Covid crisis, the High Court has ruled.

Judges ruled that then-health secretary Matt Hancock failed to comply with public sector equality duty in the process of appointing Baroness Harding and her ex-Sainsbury colleague Mike Coupe to senior posts in 2020.

It marks a victory for the Runnymede Trust following the think tank’s legal battle over appointments – having argued that the jobs were handed out without fair competition.

Dr Halima Begum, head of the Runnymede Trust, said it showed the importance of equality law in protecting people “from the closed shop of government appointments”.

She added: “Across the country, there are countless talented and well qualified public health specialists and administrators who could have successfully fulfilled the roles handed to Baroness Harding and Mr Coupe.”
 






Springal

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Feb 12, 2005
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Good timing for the publicity around the 'Diaries of a CEO' podcast this week that he is on, popular with 20-30s. Normally has entrepreneurs and the like telling their story, but for some reason Hancock was on it was his new missus.
 


dsr-burnley

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Aug 15, 2014
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Just for clarification, are they saying that the job could have been filled just as quickly and the equality rules still have been applied, or are they saying that it would have been better to delay the emergency appointments until the equality rules had all been followed?

It's just that it seems to me that in a pandemic emergency such as we had at the time, some corners would have to be cut. Does the ruling just look at the law as it stood at the time, or has it made any attempt to assess the impact on public health etc. if the appointments had not been made?
 


Garry Nelson's teacher

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May 11, 2015
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Bloody Worthing!
There's no penalty for this as far as I understand it* (despite the seriousness of the issue of giving top jobs to your mates who then spaff huge amounts of money up the wall in doing them badly and then it turn recycling the money to their mates). Great irony - Dildo Harding is married to the govt's anti-corruption czar. You really couldn't make this stuff up.

*potentially 'misconduct in public office' if a serial offender (I think)
 




Billy the Fish

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Oct 18, 2005
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Just an excuse for Runnymede and GLP to poke the Tories in the eye.

Funnily enough they dropped the case against Kate Bingham who was hired in exactly the same way. They knew it would've been a PR own goal. It's all just a big game.
 


A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
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Some people seem quite happy with a Government which happily breaks the law with impunity.
 


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