Matej Vydra

[Triggaaar]

No, as I said there is obviously an issue there. About attitude with Manu, bought for 1 1/2 million, barely ever played. Hardly surprising he's looking dejected.

If he has an attitude problem, that's not Hughton's fault. Of course it would be good if Hughton (or others in the management team) can help him get past the attitude problem, but the solution shouldn't be to play him just to make him happy. Each league game is hugely important, we can't take chances in the hope it will cheer a problem player up.

Kaz was championship player of the month, ONE year ago. Quality player, never had a decent run in the team. Not Hughton's fault, he's had a lot of injuries but the intelligencia of NSC have also written him off.

If that was what you said first time, we'd be in agreement, but you said "It's happening with Kaz now. The management need to start trying out players more rather than just sticking them in the reserves FOREVER".

Chris knows what the players can do and they'll get the chance if they're up to it. Just like Solly, who was a weak link before the Cardiff game. He's obviously performed in training and Chris continued to give him first team opportunities.

 

[Nixonator]

No, as I said there is obviously an issue there. About attitude with Manu, bought for 1 1/2 million, barely ever played. Hardly surprising he's looking dejected. Moved to a new country and never played. Kaz was championship player of the month, ONE year ago. Quality player, never had a decent run in the team. Not Hughton's fault, he's had a lot of injuries but the intelligencia of NSC have also written him off. League one standard apparently now but Hemed is great.

Plenty of players have been purchased for far in excess of 1.5 million and have flopped. It hasn't worked out for him, there's no magical formula to get him to become value for money. Chris and his team work every day with him and from what i've seen myself the standard has been poor, if not for a few glimpses of quality. So I disagree.

I also disagree with your assessment of Hemed. The only thing I can agree on is that we need another striker/no.10 in, but then I think there are few who don't think that.

 

[Davemania]

You are on fire tonight, completely agree with everything you've posted. Zamora would have been the difference, the goals he scored were the difference in every game and turned draws into wins. The reason we didn't go up is because we didn't have enough to win the many games we ended up drawing, we were just slightly short of quality in the final third.

We had a brilliant team last season with one flaw, the stat about goalscoring aside, it's clear that goals were the problem before we signed Knockers and Skalak and the difference in the team when we had regular suppliers of glorious chances, the goals were flowing. It's the first half of the season when we were hoping ordinary players like Van La Parra would make the difference but they were just equally short on quality. Murray has shown both last season's first choice strikers what a true top Championship forward is all about, he's a class apart.

Also I quite agree, Murray is SO much better. That's what we were lacking last season, it's blatantly obvious. I'm sure the management know that, I tucking hope so. He is streets ahead of the quality of Hemed and Baldock. That is not a sleight on your favourite player, that is reality

 

[Davemania]

Plenty of players have been purchased for far in excess of 1.5 million and have flopped. It hasn't worked out for him, there's no magical formula to get him to become value for money. Chris and his team work every day with him and from what i've seen myself the standard has been poor, if not for a few glimpses of quality. So I disagree.

I also disagree with your assessment of Hemed. The only thing I can agree on is that we need another striker/no.10 in, but then I think there are few who don't think that.

He hasn't even been tried out (Manu). Since when did a foreign player get what 2/3 games in a new league and that's it. Ridiculous. Hemed has had plenty of opportunties to show us he's bang average at this level

 

[Davemania]

If he has an attitude problem, that's not Hughton's fault. Of course it would be good if Hughton (or others in the management team) can help him get past the attitude problem, but the solution shouldn't be to play him just to make him happy. Each league game is hugely important, we can't take chances in the hope it will cheer a problem player up.

If that was what you said first time, we'd be in agreement, but you said "It's happening with Kaz now. The management need to start trying out players more rather than just sticking them in the reserves FOREVER".

Chris knows what the players can do and they'll get the chance if they're up to it. Just like Solly, who was a weak link before the Cardiff game. He's obviously performed in training and Chris continued to give him first team opportunities.

I'm not saying play him to make him happy. However get over any problems, sort it out, give him a proper tucking chance. What is the point in bringing him over from Holland yet you never play him. He has quality, you can see that, stick him in, see what he can do, over time. Honestly there's a lot of thick people involved in football, just cause they were gifted at football doesn't mean they're bright

 

[Davemania]

All the best managers are VERY intelligent people, without fail. Hughton is a good manager of average intelligence.

 

[severnside gull]

Also I quite agree, Murray is SO much better. That's what we were lacking last season, it's blatantly obvious. I'm sure the management know that, I tucking hope so. He is streets ahead of the quality of Hemed and Baldock. That is not a sleight on your favourite player, that is reality

He hasn't even been tried out (Manu). Since when did a foreign player get what 2/3 games in a new league and that's it. Ridiculous. Hemed has had plenty of opportunties to show us he's bang average at this level

I'm not saying play him to make him happy. However get over any problems, sort it out, give him a proper tucking chance. What is the point in bringing him over from Holland yet you never play him. He has quality, you can see that, stick him in, see what he can do, over time. Honestly there's a lot of thick people involved in football, just cause they were gifted at football doesn't mean they're bright

All the best managers are VERY intelligent people, without fail. Hughton is a good manager of average intelligence.

Well I've worked my way through it all and having done so I thought the most helpful thing I could do is to repeat your words here as clearly you enjoy seeing yourself in print.
Anyone else might prefer to simply move on.

 

[Davemania]

Well I've worked my way through it all and having done so I thought the most helpful thing I could do is to repeat your words here as clearly you enjoy seeing yourself in print.
Anyone else might prefer to simply move on.

Well you do indeed have a lot of time on your old hands. I personally wouldn't bother expending the energy to cut and paste all that. Maybe in 20 years when I've got absolutely nothing better to do

 

[Justice]

Not only do we only have 3 strikers, but we also need a different type of striker, Hemed and Murray do the same job.

The excuse is James Wilson now plays for Derby, so we need a replacement.

Wilson is shite mate one of the most laziest players to wear the stripes don't get blinded by a few goals.j

 

[Davemania]

Maybe 30 years. I'd have to be almost comastose dead of mind before I start pulling up other people's comments. I make comments of my own mind and respond to anything in response. It's all in the spirit of free thinking and spontaneity. If you don't agree, say so

 

[Spanish Seagulls]

I opened this thread thinking someone might know something but obviously not, Derby are in for Vydra now apparently.

 

[spence]

I opened this thread thinking someone might know something but obviously not, Derby are in for Vydra now apparently.

They can have him for 7 million. Good player but not worth that

 

[Davemania]

They can have him for 7 million. Good player but not worth that

Of course he's worth that. I would go as far to say that ain't a bad price for him. Almost a bargain

 

[Davemania]

Well I've worked my way through it all and having done so I thought the most helpful thing I could do is to repeat your words here as clearly you enjoy seeing yourself in print.
Anyone else might prefer to simply move on.

What does that even mean old boy? You've trawled though everything but all you can do is highlight things I've said, right at the end of the thread. For one thing, you've lying, you've only read the last page or so of the thread. Second why don't you tell me in person? I'm always up for putting a face to things. Come on brave boy, give me a call and we can meet up to discuss your disappointment at my comments

 

[HastingsSeagull]

Depends which Vydra they get. Last year he wasn't the same but maybe that's down to where he was or maybe that's down to him.

 

[Justice]

What does that even mean old boy? You've trawled though everything but all you can do is highlight things I've said, right at the end of the thread. For one thing, you've lying, you've only read the last page or so of the thread. Second why don't you tell me in person? I'm always up for putting a face to things. Come on brave boy, give me a call and we can meet up to discuss your disappointment at my comments

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Well I like Hughton but every single person on this planet has their faults. It doesn't matter how much of a pedestal you put them on. You are a complete MONG by the way

That's out of order. By all means argue your case (which you have to the point of tedium), but there's no need for abuse.

 

[bhanutz]

What does that even mean old boy? You've trawled though everything but all you can do is highlight things I've said, right at the end of the thread. For one thing, you've lying, you've only read the last page or so of the thread. Second why don't you tell me in person? I'm always up for putting a face to things. Come on brave boy, give me a call and we can meet up to discuss your disappointment at my comments

Terry tuff nut alert!

 

[Triggaaar]

I'm not saying play him to make him happy. However get over any problems, sort it out, give him a proper tucking chance.

Chris has watched Manu in training and in first team games, and Chris has formed an opinion on whether he's good enough.

What is the point in bringing him over from Holland yet you never play him.

The point would have been to bring him over and hope he's good enough to get into the team, and take his chance when he gets it. Just like Goldson. He was fourth choice and had to be patient, and then when he got his chance he was so good that he kept our captain out of the side. But my guess is that Manu's ability or attitude has stopped him getting the run you want him to get, whereas you think it's Chris's shortcomings that have stopped Manu getting a decent run.

He has quality, you can see that, stick him in, see what he can do, over time.

The problem is that we don't have time, each game is too important. We could give him a run of games and lose valuable points. Chris has given other players (like Solly) a run in the team, but I assume they need to have either a good attitude or good skills before he'll give them that run.

 

[Surf's Up]

They can have him for 7 million. Good player but not worth that

£8m for Pritchard, £7m for Vydra? No brainer surely. Think Andre Gray at £8m and what he did for Burnley's promotion chances last year. Sometimes there has to be an element of speculation to accumulate and we need goals, lots of them.