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[Albion] Match day Travel Survey



Cotton Socks

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Feb 20, 2017
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If any reduction goes ahead i think fans should be able to park anywhere i.e. inside locals parking zone of Coldean.
Why should they be able to park in Coldean & Moulsecoomb? People in those zones already plan family occasions around match days to allow for visitors parking. There is Hollingbury & Hollingdean that are currently zone free and not far to walk or bus.
 






Bozza

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Seems a stitch up after renewal to increase cost via back door i.e. no subsidised travel. However, doubt many will demand a refund and not renew as a result.
Which is why the club aren't doing that - we already know that there will be no changes to transport arrangements for the 2023/24 season.

It's the 2024/25 season onwards which is under scrutiny, and I expect we will have full details before we have to make a decision about renewing a year from now.
 
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pure_white

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Dec 8, 2021
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If trains aren't running, how do you get to The Amex? Tick all that apply
Public Bus
Park & Ride
Seagulls Travel/Coach/Minibus
Drive & Use Car Park
Drive Part Way
Taxi/Drop Off
Cycle
Motorcycle
Walk 10+ Minutes

Where is the option I watch on my laptop/TV and do not attend?
 


pure_white

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I'd pay a tenner (per car) for the P&R if the service was going to be massively improved as a result.

I suppose that's pretty complicated though, considering the traffic on the route and not being able to use double deckers etc.
Surveys are easy to manipulate e.g if you travel by train wanna keep that say im happy to pay tenner per person by Park N Ride because of loads answer that for example the club are more likely to go with it as there is less resistance. Tactical voting you might argue. Survey needed some free format text input.
 
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jackalbion

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Aug 30, 2011
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If trains aren't running, how do you get to The Amex? Tick all that apply
Public Bus
Park & Ride
Seagulls Travel/Coach/Minibus
Drive & Use Car Park
Drive Part Way
Taxi/Drop Off
Cycle
Motorcycle
Walk 10+ Minutes

Where is the option I watch on my laptop/TV and do not attend?
Not really the point of the survey is it?
 




pure_white

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The whole survey with suggestions of cutting back just feels wrong when the whole stadium is built on the train transport - i have said this before and cannot stress it enough the implications for price rises were not thought through properly and the club are snookered in how and where the stadium was built to the degree that they are at ransom to for example the trains as we've seen for matches in the past.
 






jackalbion

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The while survey with suggestions of cutting back just feels wrong when the whole stadium is built on the train transport - i have said this before and cannot stress it enough the implications for price rises were not thought through properly and the club are snookered in how and where the stadium was built to the degree that they are at ransom to for example the trains as we've seen for matches in the past.
I’ve never seen you say anything positive about the train service, it was completely fine against Brentford. You keep on saying you think they are held to ransom, but they get what they pay for, 6 trains an hour. You cannot fit anymore trains along line, I’ve found a way to 194 football games this season, with and without trains, if you really want to go you find a way.
 






pure_white

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I’ve never seen you say anything positive about the train service, it was completely fine against Brentford. You keep on saying you think they are held to ransom, but they get what they pay for, 6 trains an hour. You cannot fit anymore trains along line, I’ve found a way to 194 football games this season, with and without trains, if you really want to go you find a way.
So 4 carriages post match Falmer to Lewes is ok ? There are many examples of where the trin service is exceptionally poor.
 


pure_white

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On Boxing Day we had Southampton away, in any case there has never been trains on Boxing Day as long as I’ve been alive.
Yes you are correct but I was replying that the response of I don't go to the match by another means should have been an option.
 


jackalbion

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So 4 carriages post match Falmer to Lewes is ok ? There are many examples of where the trin service is exceptionally poor.
You can’t have more than a 4 coach 377 if you want to turn around in platform 5 at Lewes. If you don’t turn around in platform 5 at Lewes you have 2 less trains an hour. If a 313 is provided you can have 6, there has not been a service in the last 3 weekend games where less than 40 carriages an hour have been provided on Brighton - Lewes - Falmer. If you can magic extra carriages out of nowhere and an extension to Lewes Platform 5, I would love to hear it. Compared to many other stadiums in the country that is a far better service, you just choose to moan about it, because you can’t get a seat, which I’m afraid is a completely unrealistic expectation. I think also despite your negativity, there are a lot of very hardworking people (and a lot of Brighton fans) who put a plan in every match day to provide a good service with the resources available, if you want to make the plan go ahead and come up with a better one.
 
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dazzer6666

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I’ve never seen you say anything positive about the train service, it was completely fine against Brentford. You keep on saying you think they are held to ransom, but they get what they pay for, 6 trains an hour. You cannot fit anymore trains along line, I’ve found a way to 194 football games this season, with and without trains, if you really want to go you find a way.
Yep. When the trains are working to plan they’re fine - same as any other line. I commuted to London for 25 years and it was no different - strikes, signal failures and shite weather led to journey delays.

People disappear on 80 mins partly because this might happen……but most of the time it doesn’t. I’ve clapped the lads off and been back in Lewes by 5.30 the last couple of games. You more than anyone on here will know the Amex is no worse than virtually any other PL ground for transport. Your 20/30/40 mins waiting for a train to Brighton or Lewes (or a P&R bus) will be replicated walking to a tube station then queuing in London, sitting in your car waiting to exit a car park at Leicester/Villa/Wolves, waiting for a tram in Manchester etc etc.

It is what it is, as someone once said :shrug:
 


jackalbion

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Yep. When the trains are working to plan they’re fine - same as any other line. I commuted to London for 25 years and it was no different - strikes, signal failures and shite weather led to journey delays.

People disappear on 80 mins partly because this might happen……but most of the time it doesn’t. I’ve clapped the lads off and been back in Lewes by 5.30 the last couple of games. You more than anyone on here will know the Amex is no worse than virtually any other PL ground for transport. Your 20/30/40 mins waiting for a train to Brighton or Lewes (or a P&R bus) will be replicated walking to a tube station then queuing in London, sitting in your car waiting to exit a car park at Leicester/Villa/Wolves, waiting for a tram in Manchester etc etc.

It is what it is, as someone once said :shrug:
Queued for almost an hour getting out of Wembley the other day after the Finalissma, that has 5 high frequency tube stations nearby. Also took me 25 minutes to get out of the car park at Eastleigh, football is movement of large crowds, most football stadiums aren’t in city centres. I always wait 30 mins/45 mins and have a pint or two or three after the game as I want to have an enjoyable day, and not look at everything transport related as grey clouds, it is what it is and I have a fine day out with or without the train.
 
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seagullwedgee

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Seems a stitch up after renewal to increase cost via back door i.e. no subsidised travel. However, doubt many will demand a refund and not renew as a result.

If subsidised travel stops going through stn barriers will be utter chaos. Im shocked. Dissapointed angry club treat fans with this disrespect.
Again you seem to be devoid of reality. This will not affect 23/24 season, it is very clearly stated. Try and do some very basic reading, or are you from Croydon?
 


Bozza

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Yes you are correct but I was replying that the response of I don't go to the match by another means should have been an option.
Whilst I agree with my two learned friends @dazzer6666 and @jackalbion - you come across as being so ultra-negative on all aspects of your relationship with the Albion, to the point I wonder why you continue to attend, I think you do have a valid point here: it feels like it would be useful for the club to know how many people simply can not attend if the trains are not running due to strikes/engineering works/whatever.
 




jackalbion

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Aug 30, 2011
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Whilst I agree with my two learned friends @dazzer6666 and @jackalbion - you come across as being so ultra-negative on all aspects of your relationship with the Albion, to the point I wonder why you continue to attend, I think you do have a valid point here: it feels like it would be useful for the club to know how many people simply can not attend if the trains are not running due to strikes/engineering works/whatever.
As much as people get annoyed about there being no trains to games, but every single time there’s been engineering works through Falmer on a matchday they’ve been pulled or game moved, both NR and the club are pretty accommodating when this has happened. They could have just left the Palace game on the Thursday but they didn’t.
 


dazzer6666

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Whilst I agree with my two learned friends @dazzer6666 and @jackalbion - you come across as being so ultra-negative on all aspects of your relationship with the Albion, to the point I wonder why you continue to attend, I think you do have a valid point here: it feels like it would be useful for the club to know how many people simply can not attend if the trains are not running due to strikes/engineering works/whatever.
Fair point, those who can’t drive/get a lift/taxi and/or walk for more than 30 mins need an option.
 


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