[Albion] Mason Greenwood, would you want him at the Albion?

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Mason Greenwood, would YOU want him at the Albion?

  • Yes

    Votes: 36 6.7%
  • No

    Votes: 499 93.3%

  • Total voters
    535


Han Solo

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May 25, 2024
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jcdenton08

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Oct 17, 2008
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His "opinions" isn't the problem.

This is:

Luckily people at the club understood it relatively soon.
Pop psychology, really?

Many highly respected psychologists and psychiatrists actually state they’ve never diagnosed a single psychopath, because so many traits would fall within other criteria, it makes a reliable diagnosis nearly impossible. Those that do recognise the term generally state that it would be impossible for a true psychopath to operate in society due to their innate nature.

These pop psychology diagnoses are about as useful as a “Which tellytubby am I?” quiz on Buzzfeed, or worse, astrology.

Stick to football.
 


sparkie

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Jul 17, 2003
13,276
Hove
Pop psychology, really?

Many highly respected psychologists and psychiatrists actually state they’ve never diagnosed a single psychopath, because so many traits would fall within other criteria, it makes a reliable diagnosis nearly impossible. Those that do recognise the term generally state that it would be impossible for a true psychopath to operate in society due to their innate nature.

These pop psychology diagnoses are about as useful as a “Which tellytubby am I?” quiz on Buzzfeed, or worse, astrology.

Stick to football.
The article actually says at the beginning "but remember that a few signs does not a psychopath make. A proper diagnosis can only be given by a medical professional. “Anything else is speculation,” warns Robert Schug, PhD, a neurocriminologist and clinical psychologist specializing in the biology and psychology of the criminal mind."
 


US Seagull

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Jul 17, 2003
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Cleveland, OH
Good stuff. If all the most repulsive people in football gather in Marseille, I won't see much of them as Ligue 1 is borderline unwatchable.
Ligue 1's trouble getting a broadcast deal sorted might make it literally unwatchable at this rate.
 


US Seagull

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Jul 17, 2003
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Cleveland, OH
Every time I see that transcript, I hate Greenwood a little more, despair a little more at the girl’s decision to take him back, and feel more and more disgust for those around her who allowed her to do so. What the actual f*** is her father thinking?
That was the first time I'd seen it, and it was not pleasant reading for sure. Absolutely scum of a person.
 




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Oct 8, 2003
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Faversham
Pop psychology, really?

Many highly respected psychologists and psychiatrists actually state they’ve never diagnosed a single psychopath, because so many traits would fall within other criteria, it makes a reliable diagnosis nearly impossible. Those that do recognise the term generally state that it would be impossible for a true psychopath to operate in society due to their innate nature.

These pop psychology diagnoses are about as useful as a “Which tellytubby am I?” quiz on Buzzfeed, or worse, astrology.

Stick to football.
If only that were true.

As Machiavelli said, you only kill people if you truly have to. Manipulation normally gets you all you want.
 


jcdenton08

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Oct 17, 2008
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If only that were true.

As Machiavelli said, you only kill people if you truly have to. Manipulation normally gets you all you want.
It’s a well-regarded opinion in psychiatric circles, one which many disagree with - but that’s medical science for you. But I don’t really want to go down this route. Only to say that branding someone a “psychopath” with absolutely zero evidence, qualifications or clinical expertise is absolutely ridiculous.

I could brand Swansman a psychopath by cherry-picking science journals which support my case and ignoring others which don’t, but that would be equally as stupid.
 






Barnet Seagull

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Jul 14, 2003
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Falmer, soon...
Pop psychology, really?

Many highly respected psychologists and psychiatrists actually state they’ve never diagnosed a single psychopath, because so many traits would fall within other criteria, it makes a reliable diagnosis nearly impossible. Those that do recognise the term generally state that it would be impossible for a true psychopath to operate in society due to their innate nature.

These pop psychology diagnoses are about as useful as a “Which tellytubby am I?” quiz on Buzzfeed, or worse, astrology.

Stick to football.
I'm going Po
 


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It’s a well-regarded opinion in psychiatric circles, one which many disagree with - but that’s medical science for you. But I don’t really want to go down this route. Only to say that branding someone a “psychopath” with absolutely zero evidence, qualifications or clinical expertise is absolutely ridiculous.

I could brand Swansman a psychopath by cherry-picking science journals which support my case and ignoring others which don’t, but that would be equally as stupid.
I agree. I missed that bit in the thread. Not a thread I wish to investigate further.
 






Han Solo

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May 25, 2024
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Pop psychology, really?

Many highly respected psychologists and psychiatrists actually state they’ve never diagnosed a single psychopath, because so many traits would fall within other criteria, it makes a reliable diagnosis nearly impossible. Those that do recognise the term generally state that it would be impossible for a true psychopath to operate in society due to their innate nature.

These pop psychology diagnoses are about as useful as a “Which tellytubby am I?” quiz on Buzzfeed, or worse, astrology.

Stick to football.
Ok and many other highly respected psychologists and psychiatrists has written entire books on psychopathy and I'm going to have a bit more faith in those than I have in.. you.

Roberto De Zerbi is a psychopath, not much doubt in my mind.

Knows how to push buttons to make people turn against each other while they continue to lick his feet. A weaker chairman would have been drawn into the whole shit and danced to his tempting tunes just like most fans did. Once a new job (also known as more money) was on the cards he started to make himself impossible in the eyes of those running the club, wonder why? After the Roma game, calling out EVERYONE (including his staff) except himself (correct me if I'm wrong because I could only watch it once), saying they need to improve.

Playing young kids through injuries so we could win more games JUST so he could further his career (aka earn more money and power), while also blaming them for the lack of success. This all while being a 45-year-old single man living in a rented flat. Every other football manager is capable of getting himself a life.

I liked Roberto De Zerbi to begin with. It wasn't easy due to the whole Potter yin/yang thing, but the football looked nice, he kept up the nice way of using the academy. But at some point during the first transfer window I was getting uneasy. I watch all press conferences and shit because its a bit fun, and it struck me that nothing was spontaneous, nothing was from the heart. On occassion he got upset and blamed everyone but himself, but generally speaking every f***ing word had been practiced in a mirror or something. He didn't respond the questions of the journalists - he told them the stories he wanted to tell.

Along with 53 Portuguese individuals, he is the (through my way of seeing life) least likeable person I've seen in football.

Another year with him in charge would have killed my short and still somewhat fragile romance with this club and I'm absolutely delighted he has f***ed off and 200% certainly will never ever work with us again.
 








pigmanovich

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Mar 16, 2024
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London
At some level, and at some point Greenwood should be allowed to move on, and not forever be the wanker. But sweeping it under the carpet isn't how to get there.
I could respect a statement, acknowledging his personal problems of the past, but that he has repaired damaged relationships and wants to move forward etc. Pretending to have no knowledge is weak.
Just a “wanker”? “Personal problems”? “Damaged relationships”?

Oy vey :facepalm:
 


Baldseagull

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Jan 26, 2012
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Crawley
Just a “wanker”? “Personal problems”? “Damaged relationships”?

Oy vey :facepalm:
**** then if you prefer, the rest is an example of what could have been said, by someone possibly about to become his manager, not how I would personally describe his history.
 




Baldseagull

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Jan 26, 2012
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Crawley
Ok and many other highly respected psychologists and psychiatrists has written entire books on psychopathy and I'm going to have a bit more faith in those than I have in.. you.

Roberto De Zerbi is a psychopath, not much doubt in my mind.

Knows how to push buttons to make people turn against each other while they continue to lick his feet. A weaker chairman would have been drawn into the whole shit and danced to his tempting tunes just like most fans did. Once a new job (also known as more money) was on the cards he started to make himself impossible in the eyes of those running the club, wonder why? After the Roma game, calling out EVERYONE (including his staff) except himself (correct me if I'm wrong because I could only watch it once), saying they need to improve.

Playing young kids through injuries so we could win more games JUST so he could further his career (aka earn more money and power), while also blaming them for the lack of success. This all while being a 45-year-old single man living in a rented flat. Every other football manager is capable of getting himself a life.

I liked Roberto De Zerbi to begin with. It wasn't easy due to the whole Potter yin/yang thing, but the football looked nice, he kept up the nice way of using the academy. But at some point during the first transfer window I was getting uneasy. I watch all press conferences and shit because its a bit fun, and it struck me that nothing was spontaneous, nothing was from the heart. On occassion he got upset and blamed everyone but himself, but generally speaking every f***ing word had been practiced in a mirror or something. He didn't respond the questions of the journalists - he told them the stories he wanted to tell.

Along with 53 Portuguese individuals, he is the (through my way of seeing life) least likeable person I've seen in football.

Another year with him in charge would have killed my short and still somewhat fragile romance with this club and I'm absolutely delighted he has f***ed off and 200% certainly will never ever work with us again.

For me he is an obsessive, and certainly has character flaws, but nowhere near being a psychopath. If you are saying that another year of him would have driven you away, some people are going to wish he was still here all the more.
 




Sarisbury Seagull

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Glad everyone seeing what I and many others saw from around last Xmas.

Roberto is a bullshitting cvnt.

Hope he fails miserably at Marseille. The only annoying thing about that is that he will get a big pay off.
This.

And the shit I got on here for calling out that **** last season from people bizarrely obsessed with defending him despite the harm he was doing our club.

Tosser and massively over rated manager too. Thank f*** we’re rid of him.
 




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