March for England

[Lord Bracknell]

Sussex is perfectly capable of organising a peaceful and pleasant St George's Day procession. Here's one that Hastings did last year. There was a similar one today.

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[tezz79]

I'm not sure that's really true. Depends upon how you do it, I guess. Going to a football match every week or so doesn't dilute the experience compared to the casual fan just watching the World Cup or Euros every two years. For the frequent protester, neither does going to a protest every other Saturday.

That don't make sense though does it & you cant compare the 2 in any way whatsoever.
For starters if you were somebody that went to watch your team every week then you must be passionate about your team & football more so than somebody who only likes the occasional international game.

All the people protesting all the time are not going to feel passionate about every issue all of the time whereas somebody who would not normally go to effort of protesting would have to feel more passionate about a certain issue to bother making the conscious decision to do something they would not normally do.

All this is irrelevant though because what I'm saying is the more pointless half arsed protests that go on the less unusual it becomes to OTHER people who are not part of the protest & the less notice they will take & if anything the more pissed off they would get with the protestors for all the frequent inconvenience.

Your analogy is also referring to the experience of the person going to football every week (or occasionally) which again does not work because I'm not talking about the impact a protest has on the people attending / taking part in the protests I'm actually talking about the impact the protests have on those not involved that are having to put up with it. The more it goes on willy nilly the more people will get used to it & the less impact the protest has therefore the whole concept of protesting is weakened or diluted as it becomes the norm

 

[vegster]

Oh dear, i suppose i shall have to state it again. I have never voted Tory, get it, which means i have never voted for Thatcher, please do not confuse the contempt that i have with people that turn up to disrupt her funeral, or the fact that i can't stand the last Labour government, or the Lib Dems.
Still if you have to slide or snide this comment into a different topic......then feel free i suppose.

Well then looks like there are not many parties left that would receive the honour of your vote, I'll assume the greens are out too so that does not leave much else. Thanks for clarifying things.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Poor lil' fascists. Did the nasty men upset them ?

Both groups are equally vile and violent morons. Both should be banned from marching so we can get back to the Scouts and Guides actually celebrating St Georges Day in a civil and honourable way.

 

[Hotchilidog]

Both groups are equally vile and violent morons. Both should be banned from marching so we can get back to the Scouts and Guides actually celebrating St Georges Day in a civil and honourable way.

Kind of agree with this. I feel there is no place in Brighton for this march which takes place here just so that these knuckle draggers can drag the 'reds' out and have a little fun whilst feeding their persecution complex. These people hate Brighton, with it's trendy liberals, gays, freaks and giant mosque, their presence here is not a celebration of our national day at all. What a shame that a significant number of the protesters are equally up for a violent confrontation too, I refuse to see why the city should have to put up with either party for this pointless charade.

Even though St Georges day IS widely celebrated these days, I'm actually pleased that we don't go overboard on it, for me national days are a sign of insecurity. I don't need a special day to feel great about who I am and where I am from. St Patrick's day for instance is really just a marketing exercise for Guinness and nothing else, would you want St Georges day reduced to that pitiful spectacle.

 

[User removed 4]

This has got me thinking what a ****ed up national identity we have. I am sure that most of us are anti-fascist and accepting of multiculturalism. At the same time though we seem utterly confused and unsure of how to celebrate our own culture, it is our national day on Tuesday and for the most part people are completely unaware of this. Should we not all be out celebrating our national day? should it not be a national holiday? Should we have street parties and all day drinking (it is what we do best)

Or are we all actually terrified that if we celebrate too hard we will be deemed racist.? What a ****ed up state of affairs.

Yes, most people are very accepting of multiculturalism .......... as long as it's far away from where THEY ****ing live.

 

[User removed 4]

Poor lil' fascists. Did the nasty men upset them ?

You really are a gutless w anker , you wouldn't say a single word to any of the marchers faces.

 

[The Spanish]

Kind of agree with this. I feel there is no place in Brighton for this march which takes place here just so that these knuckle draggers can drag the 'reds' out and have a little fun whilst feeding their persecution complex. These people hate Brighton, with it's trendy liberals, gays, freaks and giant mosque, their presence here is not a celebration of our national day at all. What a shame that a significant number of the protesters are equally up for a violent confrontation too, I refuse to see why the city should have to put up with either party for this pointless charade.

Even though St Georges day IS widely celebrated these days, I'm actually pleased that we don't go overboard on it, for me national days are a sign of insecurity. I don't need a special day to feel great about who I am and where I am from. St Patrick's day for instance is really just a marketing exercise for Guinness and nothing else, would you want St Georges day reduced to that pitiful spectacle.

first paragraphs a bit harsh in my eyes, but agree totall with you on the 2nd. the question is, WHY are the English suddenly so insecure. Devolution and state endorsed multi culturalism, perhaps?

 

[hybrid_x]

what was, and hs been, "england and englishness," died years ago - by the mid 90's it was pretty much dead.......gone.

what would one celebrate in english culture? council tax? sport all on pay tv? grey skies? many ppl on the booze and nose powder? chavs? mass materialism? mass consumerism? being fat and unhealthy diets?


in the 50s, 60s, and 70s it seemed like a great place - but since the mid 90's england is pretty much a dump with little to cheer.

 

[HawkTheSeagull]

What's the excuse for a hundred odd fascists turning up year after year to goad them?

Because they are all as bad as each other.....with differing views of course. Those who turn up with faces covered and all in black are just asking for it.

Saw on the news that there was some protesting against the EDL peacefully near the Pier too, something like that im fine with.

 

[topbanana36]

You really are a gutless w anker , you wouldn't say a single word to any of the marchers faces.

Plenty of gutless people out there bushy.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

I did scoff when one anti march protestor claimed Brighton is picked as it is so multicultural. I must have missed that.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Yes, most people are very accepting of multiculturalism .......... as long as it's far away from where THEY ****ing live.

Very true. Multiculturalism in Sussex compared to places in London, Luton is completely different. That is changing now as more and more people find their way to the coast.

 

[Springal]

Just seen a bunch of EDL 'supporters' slagging off the Brighton Pavilion, saying how could we let a mosque that big be built says it all

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

what was, and hs been, "england and englishness," died years ago - by the mid 90's it was pretty much dead.......gone.

what would one celebrate in english culture? council tax? sport all on pay tv? grey skies? many ppl on the booze and nose powder? chavs? mass materialism? mass consumerism? being fat and unhealthy diets?


in the 50s, 60s, and 70s it seemed like a great place - but since the mid 90's england is pretty much a dump with little to cheer.

Ooooo you self-loather.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Did the EDL bring their muslamic ray-guns with them?

 

[Woodchip]

They don't,t represent me either.

Nor do the dumbarsed left wing liberal googlers who turn up to cause trouble whilst HIDING behind Police lines. Googlers one and all, with no excuse for covering their faces as they are the good guys, or so they tell us. I wonder if any of them have a REAL job, not in 'IT' or fast food management?

Feck off. Not all IT nerds are crazy liberal lefties.

 

[Woodchip]

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[Barrel of Fun]

Quite a bizarre article on the Argus website...

City counting cost of street march From The Argus)

The day started rather differently, with nationalists queuing politely for their egg and cress sandwiches at Brighton Station.

Following a detour to the off-licence, the group of 20, complete with St George’s flags and replica England football kits, made their way to the seafront.

On reaching the Old Steine there was confusion as hundreds of officers attempted to keep them apart from the anti-fascists.

With the nationalists hopelessly outnumbered it wasn’t long before a dozen snarling Alsatians, horses and riot police moved in.

Then, as Caroline Lucas MP and a host of others were set to begin their speeches, a roar erupted as two dozen nationalists came down Marine Parade.

“Engeerland, Engeerland, Engeerland, ” they chanted as the 75- strong balaclava-clad anti-fascists cornered them at the entrance to the Sealife Centre.

One hurled a beach pebble at the clean shaven head of a nationalist, sparking a bloody brawl.

Three antis then jumped the barrier swinging wildly as their friends hurled what is believed to be bottles of urine.

A flurry of Brighton’s famous beach pebbles followed and, bizarrely, a bottle of Gordon’s Gin.

The nationalists came back, kicking one of the protesters to the floor while another waved a mass of bamboo canes wildly in their direction.

Completely taken by surprise, it was 20 seconds before the police presence was felt.

Three police horses eventually drove the horde of anti-fascists back, allowing the nationalists to make a swift exit to join their friends on Madeira Drive.

With the main organised march beginning to take shape at midday, 50 balaclava-wearing activists, dressed head to toe in black, made their way through Kemp Town’s streets.

“Up there on the left, ” a scout at the head of the group shouted, before they charged down Chapel Street towards a group of nationalists.

A flurry of activity came over the police radio and two horses galloped up St James’s Street, leaving those sitting outside its many cafes rubbing their eyes in disbelief.

The police helicopter hummed overhead as officers from Kent and the Metropolitan Police Force attempted to navigate the winding streets.

Having pushed activists back to the Old Steine, they were joined by 100 other balaclava-clad protesters by the Royal Albion Hotel.

With elderly couples watching on in horror from the hotel’s grand dining room, there was a sudden surge towards the Lanes.

“Nazi scum off our streets, ” was met with chants of “no surrender” as the outnumbered nationalists, made their move.

A glass bottle from 30 feet away caught one of the “patriots” flush on the head.

But this time the police were quickly on the scene.

Horses charged down the narrow Lanes to separate the two opposing sides.

On the seafront, the official marchers were moving along Kings Road, kettled by scores of officers, while hundreds of protestors holding placards gathered behind the barricades on the promenade.

Some marchers, who were waving St George’s flags and swapping insults with the anti-fascists, were hit with stones and coins.

As the parade moved past, scuffles broke out in the crowd between small pockets of flag-waving March for England supporters and anti-fascists, leaving watching children in tears.

In The Lanes, violent clashes continued as police struggled to get to grips with the whereabouts of splinter groups.

A dozen March for England protesters goaded activists in East Street.

Outnumbered ten to one, officers attempted to escort them away.

But as activists chased them down one of the narrow historic lanes, 15 nationalists came from nowhere. Clenched fists swinging, three or four were knocked to the ground.

Police charged towards them and the wounded were carried out by their friends.

One woman, no older than 25, was left with blood pouring from her nose and mouth.

Her friends ushered her into the nearby Lush cosmetics store where she temporarily suppressed her cries of pain so as not to intrude on the ongoing children’s party.

As the police horses rushed forward once more, the East Street resident Tarot card readers hurled obscenities at the nationalists.

Running battles continued into the early evening as splinter groups tracked each other through the city.

But with the light starting to fade and activists returning to their homes, the huge police operation was stepped down at around 6pm.

 

[hybrid_x]

Ooooo you self-loather.

why? maybe i don't live in england anymore.