[Albion] Marc Cucurella *Signed For Chelsea 05/08/2022*

[Gully Forever]

Every club is a selling club eventually.

The difference is the successful clubs sell them on AFTER they helped them achieved success.
We are the feeder club that will never see that success.

 

[Gully Forever]

I know it sounds a horrible comparison but we have to think of the youngsters as a crop. We grow them, train them and then either use them in our team and sell them on. Even the ones who don't make it into the team are being sold to lower leagues or abroad. It is how the club is becoming sustainable, and if it wasn't for covid, we wouldn't have a debt.

ALL clubs were hit with Covid. That shouldn't be used as an excuse.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The difference is the successful clubs sell them on AFTER they helped them achieved success.
We are the feeder club that will never see that success.

In football, money buys success. Unless you have a few oil wells on your property, you're going to have to earn that money and success. Five year or ten year plans.

Too many fans want instant success.

 

[McTavish]

I don’t blame Cucu for taking his opportunity. I am saddened at the club's preference, or need , for money over footballing excellence.
At the end of last season we were on the crest of a wave, 9th in the League and daring to dream of future success , even European football. Now we have lost not one but our two best players in the same transfer window.
Now we know. If the price is right we will sell anybody. Next year , I can see the South American boys being on their way if they do well, or Sanchez.. We are a selling club . We kidded ourselves that we had arrived among the big boys but we clearly have not the means to sustain it .
I see us back to bumping along the bottom of the Premier League until , one day , we are relegated. We may be the richest club in the Championship, or lower……..

If Cucurella didn't belive that he would be allowed to move on if a CL team wanted him and the price was right then he wouldn't have been here in the first place and neither would quite a few of our current team. We would have been relegated long ago. It is the pursuit of footballing excellence that means that we have to sell when the price and destination are right.

 

[Bold Seagull]

The difference is the successful clubs sell them on AFTER they helped them achieved success.
We are the feeder club that will never see that success.

Remind me again how many times BHA have finished 9th or higher in the top division?

 

[Gully Forever]

On that note, I don't believe the business model of relying on great Recruitment will be sustainable way of keeping this club in the premier league, without buying expensive quality players.
We've had a bad history of recruitment in the past, wasting millions. Personally I think that will repeat itself again, just like any club.

 

[Gully Forever]

Remind me again how many times BHA have finished 9th or higher in the top division?

Sounds to me like a ONE season, of a decent run has gone to your head.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Sounds to me like a ONE season, of a decent run has gone to your head.

It's a measure of success. I would say a club with our history, achieving our highest ever league position should be regarded as a huge success. Maybe it hasn't gone to your head enough?

As for your other point above, there is no other business model that keeps a club in the PL without an owner funding it. Either we have an owner that covers the loses, or we have to turn profit on players. Where else is the money coming from?

 

[Swansman]

On that note, I don't believe the business model of relying on great Recruitment will be sustainable way of keeping this club in the premier league, without buying expensive quality players.
We've had a bad history of recruitment in the past, wasting millions. Personally I think that will repeat itself again, just like any club.

So what do you think is the sustainable way?

 

[Bold Seagull]

So what do you think is the sustainable way?

Even the Championship wasn't sustainable, so I'm not sure how people think about our revenue streams. The only other model for a club like ours is financially sustained by an owner. That is the brutal reality if you think you can refuse an offer of £62m. Must be great when you're not the one covering £10m+ losses every year.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

On that note, I don't believe the business model of relying on great Recruitment will be sustainable way of keeping this club in the premier league, without buying expensive quality players.
We've had a bad history of recruitment in the past, wasting millions. Personally I think that will repeat itself again, just like any club.

You are saying you don't trust Tony Bloom to learn from past mistakes. He has sacked people on the spot before.

 

[Hugo Rune]

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Ha!

I knew Burnley tried to gazump us!

Taking him to Burnley before signing him was possibly the worst thing they could do! Very funny!

 

[drew]

On that note, I don't believe the business model of relying on great Recruitment will be sustainable way of keeping this club in the premier league, without buying expensive quality players.
We've had a bad history of recruitment in the past, wasting millions. Personally I think that will repeat itself again, just like any club.

This bad history you talk of, I assume you're referring to the likes of Locadia, Andone. You cannot expect every player we buy to be developed into a a £60m windfall. On the whole, since promotion, our recruitment is right more often that it is wrong. Gross, Veltman, Welbeck, Maupay, Trossard, Webster, Bissouma etc etc.

 

[AmexRuislip]

On that note, I don't believe the business model of relying on great Recruitment will be sustainable way of keeping this club in the premier league, without buying expensive quality players.
We've had a bad history of recruitment in the past, wasting millions. Personally I think that will repeat itself again, just like any club.

I beg to differ.
Albions recruitment is, has been and will continue to thrive.
Young players and their agents will always be looking at the best options to get that players career started, in the respect of not sitting on a bench at the big time charlie clubs, but at the Albion, where they'll stand a better chance of game time.
I don't see or ever want my club to start wasting large amounts money on players

All in my opinion of course

 

[amexer]

In football, money buys success. Unless you have a few oil wells on your property, you're going to have to earn that money and success. Five year or ten year plans.

Too many fans want instant success.

We have no option but to carry on as we do although recent sales enable us to spend. Nearly all PL league clubs have owners with unlimited supply of cash. 2 new clubs the same Fulham and seems Forest who have already spent £100m. Bournmouth owners I think are Russian so dont know how they get money out.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I beg to differ.
Albions recruitment is, has been and will continue to thrive.
Young players and their agents will always be looking at the best options to get that players career started, in the respect of not sitting on a bench at the big time charlie clubs, but at the Albion, where they'll stand a better chance of game time.
I don't see or ever want my club to start wasting large amounts money on players

All in my opinion of course

I agree. Look at Tariq Lamptey, who didn't want to be a rich bench warmer but loves to play football.

It will be intriguing to see Lamptey v Cucurella this season.

 

[Seasider78]

I beg to differ.
Albions recruitment is, has been and will continue to thrive.
Young players and their agents will always be looking at the best options to get that players career started, in the respect of not sitting on a bench at the big time charlie clubs, but at the Albion, where they'll stand a better chance of game time.
I don't see or ever want my club to start wasting large amounts money on players

All in my opinion of course

Look at clubs like Everton and Villa hundreds of millions spent to try and bridge the gap and they are nowhere near.

The top of the league is a closed shop and our transfer policy is spot on for keeping us as competitive as we can within a sustainable budget.

 

[Weststander]

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That was a sliding doors moment. Cucu’s choice:
- giving the Albion a vast profit just 11 months later.
- Cucu getting a season’s coaching from Potter, not Dyche, improving his game.

 

[dazzer6666]

On that note, I don't believe the business model of relying on great Recruitment will be sustainable way of keeping this club in the premier league, without buying expensive quality players.
We've had a bad history of recruitment in the past, wasting millions. Personally I think that will repeat itself again, just like any club.

So, made a few mistakes early on learning the ropes and evolving from a lower division team, but now getting it mostly right (and in some cases fantastically right), yet you know more about what will (or won’t) work than a successful billionaire businessman and lifelong fan and his best in the business CEO. OK

Must be awful being so negative

 

[Swansman]

That was a sliding doors moment. Cucu’s choice:
- giving the Albion a vast profit just 11 months later.
- Cucu getting a season’s coaching from Potter, not Dyche, improving his game.

Would have been interesting to see the parallel universe where he did end up in Burnley.

Don't think he would have been in a top club now if that was the case. The best and the worst thing about playing proper football, like Brighton, is that if a player performs well, big clubs will think "ok he could do that for us". If they perform for Burnley they'd think "ok, nice, but can he do the same in a football team?".