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Man dragged off UA Flight says it was "More Horrifying" Than His Experiences In Vietnam



trueblue

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Jul 5, 2003
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Not going to click on that shit sheet link and help them out. Presumably some nasty story about the passenger's past? What relevance has that got? Someone said he's been 'courting worldwide publicity'. Yes, he's given interviews now but it's hardly his fault this went global and from that point it's going to be difficult to keep the media at bay. The video that took the story stratospheric appeared to be filmed by an entirely unrelated passenger.

It's sad that someone who gets treated like that then has to suffer from their life being pulled apart. One of the sickest aspects of the Internet age. "So You've Been Publicly Shamed" by Jon Ronson is well worth a read.

That said, comparing it to Vietnam - way over the top.
 




Kinky Gerbil

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Jul 16, 2003
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Rightly or wrongly he wasn't going to win, so I don't know what he was going to gain by refusing to leave his seat, then trying to get back on.

I would be livid if it happened to be, but to refusing to leave a plane is only going to end one way

If he goes to court I doubt he will win, but I imagine he will get a pay out.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Rightly or wrongly he wasn't going to win, so I don't know what he was going to gain by refusing to leave his seat, then trying to get back on.

I would be livid if it happened to be, but to refusing to leave a plane is only going to end one way
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If he goes to court I doubt he will win, but I imagine he will get a pay out.

Did you read post 35?
 


portlock seagull

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Jul 28, 2003
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No. He is originally Vietnamese. As the news account makes clear, he is one of the thousands of Vietnamese refugees who escaped from the region in an open boat. That must have been a horrific experience in its own right.

Ow. Note to self. Must read actual report not just headline! Thank you
 


clippedgull

Hotdogs, extra onions
Aug 11, 2003
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Near Ducks, Geese, and Seagulls
During an LBC radio show last night they were talking to a lawyer in the US that said Chicago has one of the most plaintive friendly jury systems in the States.

Although he couldn't be drawn on a final settlement figure, with the facts known so far he said it would easily be seven figures, and he wouldn't be at all surprised if other passengers didn't file personal stress and trauma lawsuits against United and the City of Chicago!
 




portlock seagull

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Jul 28, 2003
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Sorry mate, but you are way off the mark here. Internal flights are like buses here in the states, The whole scenario that developed happens 100 times a day across the country. 99% of the time, the airline coughs up good money for people to stand down. Now look at this scenario and see that they had to go to the very, very unfavored route of random picking...this should never have got this far.

My family and I have traveled back across the states on different planes due to the very good incentives that are paid out often for overbooking. We got $2,500 and free flights for the family anywhere on the airlines domestic routes not to long ago and were home within 4 hours of our scheduled travel.

On a plane of 150 people, someone would have taken at the minimum $1500 and a free flight to fly an hour or so later, if the airline had not effed it up and left it to late.

The long and the short of it is, the franchise airline is at fault. They did not offer enough to cover their mistake and reverted to a tactic that is very much frowned upon in the industry. The victim was visiting his family and returning home to go to work the next day, he has every right to do that, once on the plane, you have covered by more rights than sat in the gate. The cheaper low key franchise using Uniteds name, got it wrong, very wrong.

See reply Lord B :) My bad.
 


Del Fenner

Because of Boxing Day
Sep 5, 2011
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A lot of the media seem to be glossing over the fact that he sustained concussion, which presumably didn't happen to him during his Vietnam experiences.
 






dadams2k11

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Jun 24, 2011
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Brighton
Yes I am. As are all other rationale people! Guys behaved like a tool, in no way would I have ever dreamt of doing what he did and then courting world wide publicity. World is full of these tossers with their me me me perspective. Shit happens but he would only have missed a flight. Someone had to. Although him missing it is worse than the Vietnam war apparently.

Are you serious?
What a nob you are.
 


Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
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No, I have now :)

I still think he was in a lose lose situation, once he was asked to leave it was game over for him staying on that flight.
Fingers crossed I can get myself in a lose lose situation and come out the other side with a 7 or even 8 figure sum in my pocket.
 






Del Fenner

Because of Boxing Day
Sep 5, 2011
1,438
An Away Terrace
That said, comparing it to Vietnam - way over the top.

Please would you explain how you think his experience of fleeing Vietnam is worse than this?

Chicago attorney Thomas A. Demetrio said David Dao, 69, suffered a serious concussion, broken nose, two missing teeth and other injuries when he was dragged off United Flight 3411 at O’Hare International Airport on Sunday. Demetrio said Dao, who was released from the hospital late Wednesday, will need reconstructive surgery.
 










portlock seagull

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Jul 28, 2003
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An innocent man on a plane gets assaulted because the Airline want to get their staff on a plane and don't have room and it's the man fault?
somehow I can't see the drama he caused unfolding if I was asked to leave a plane...however wronged I felt.
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
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Don't think so - pilot pal of mine told me they actually do have 'complete control'.

I've been offered cash to be bumped a few times. Tempting as it's been I haven't taken it as it's always been on work trips. £800 was the highest.

Yes, but what does 'complete control' mean? I'm pretty sure it does not mean everything up to and including 'droit du seigneur'. And it is predicated by safety. Yes, he/she can throw off a nutter who won't stop praying loudly while the evacuation procedure is being explained but, as I said . . . .

Anyway, if you have nothing pressing, taking the shilling can be a good racket for earning a few quid and getting an extra night to watch hotel porn, if that's what floats your boat. Personally I always keep my head down when such offers are made. Iike to get home. Its nice here.

Another great wheeze back in the day was to arrive 5 minutes before the gate closed; many times I was 'bumped up' unto first class owing to my disorganization. A massive boon if its a longhaul. Sadly this has never been a feature in the last 20 years - so I've had to learn to arrive in good time now :wozza::lolol:
 






Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
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No they weren't, they were breaking FAA rules. It is illegal to bump a booked passenger off a flight in favour of unbooked airline staff. The flight was not overbooked.

Thought I'd bump this up again. As I had heard, as I suspected, and as any small amount of thinking about it ought to reveal, a pilot is not a god with the power of life and death. This crap about 'the pilot has the right to throw anyone off a plane for any reason' is Fake News.

I don't care how much of a squealing twit this guy may be, whether he wears his mother's undies, or whether he smells a payout and is milking his discomfort by comparing his suffering to that of The Lord Jesus (and let's not forget, today is the perfect day for a crucifixion). Its like the old poem by Attila - contributory negligence. There is no such thing. I hope he 'wins' a swimming pool of cash.
 




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