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Man City - is noone else concerned?



Oh I agree totally (and who's to say that Man City won't on day go down 2 divs and then what?), QUOTE]

They did that ten years ago.

And they owe their rise back to the top to a certain Mr Butters, missing a penalty in a play off final
 




And the Premier League have shown themselves to be as capable of running a fair and transparent and even football competition as a cage of monkeys. It's all getting a little bit out of hand if you ask me...

It is all going to a new level now with dubious foreigners popping up all over the place. The worrying thing with this is the Asian gambling connotations where the Premier League is HUGE business. Now I'm not suggesting there may be any irregularities with match results of course but with the sums of money being piled into the Prem not all these new investors are going to be happy with results on the pitch

Don't be surprised if one day George W decides to spend some of his ill gotten gains in la la Premiership land and then nuke Manchester if his London teams isn't winning :ohmy::ohmy::ohmy:
 


redoubtable seagull

Well-known member
Oct 27, 2004
2,611
Oh I agree totally (and who's to say that Man City won't on day go down 2 divs and then what?), but the idea of these people of enormous wealth from uncertain sources (and I include Abramovich and Dave Whelan - c'mon, JBB Sports is a shit shop) getting involved just doesn't feel right.

At least Dave Whelan was an ex pro footballer !!

And spent his youth in Wigan and set up his first jjb shop there too. He has a very close affinity to the town. Not one of the bad guys in this instance.
 




Brightonfan1983

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
4,863
UK
Good article Silent. And my digs at Dave Whelan were meant as smiling asides which kinda undermined me!! :shootself
 




Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,827
Uffern
It wasn't that long ago there was speculation about a Russian billionaire about to invest in the Albion. There were people on here WETTING themselves with excitement, regardless who he was or were his money came from. Sadly, fans would welcome Osama Bin Laden if he were to promise a couple of top-class strikers.
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,952
Surrey
It wasn't that long ago there was speculation about a Russian billionaire about to invest in the Albion. There were people on here WETTING themselves with excitement, regardless who he was or were his money came from. Sadly, fans would welcome Osama Bin Laden if he were to promise a couple of top-class strikers.
Correct. And the santimony of some on here is beyond belief. You'd think that NO fan of any Premiership club actually even knew life outside the Premiership existed.

Well I care about this takeover. It shows a couple of things:
a) fit and proper means jack shit - as long as they can wave upwards of £100m around
b) yet another foreign owner. What fuckwits the FA appear to be. You wait - one day these foreign owned clubs are going to close that piffling loophole that prevents them turning their playthings into cash cows. Relegation.
 


Braders

Abi Fletchers Gimpboy
Jul 15, 2003
29,224
Brighton, United Kingdom
Don't be surprised if one day George W decides to spend some of his ill gotten gains in la la Premiership land and then nuke Manchester if his London teams isn't winning :ohmy::ohmy::ohmy:

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
 




Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,827
Uffern
You wait - one day these foreign owned clubs are going to close that piffling loophole that prevents them turning their playthings into cash cows. Relegation.


I'm sure they'll try but to vote relegation out would require a two-thirds majority. That would mean that 14 clubs would have to absolutely certain they wouldn't go down at the end of the season.

Can you really see the three promoted clubs, Fulham, Wigan, Middlesbrough, and West Ham (and possibly Reading, Portsmouth, Newcastle and Villa) voting to bring in relegation, knowing that if they were relegated they'd be cut off from the Prem for ever? That would be a hell of a gamble.

Now, if the rule could be changed to make it a majority vote, such a change could happen but I don't know how likely that is.
 


But the next logical step if for the Champion League to be expended into a proper european superleague format for the G14 clubs.


The principal background

Football's historical structures which were set up and developed at a time when they were perfectly capable of serving the cause are now facing a new political, competitive ,financial, and legal contexts.

It appears that the core activity of football nowadays rather resides within club football than amongst the national teams competitions.

Therefore, and as a consequence of their historical-based structures and constitutions, the FA and their global association currently exploit an expertise, which does not lie in the day-to-day running of club football.

The time may have come to consider reforming these structures and the way football is managed nowadays to enable it to succeed in evolving in the right direction.

There is no doubt that, as the primary exponents of top club football in Europe, and throughout the World, G-14 has a desire, and a right, to have its voice heard. It is the fervent belief of the group that football will benefit as a whole, not just the member clubs of G-14.

The decision making process

In the current context, football clubs are no longer solely dedicated to hiring football players and playing games to win titles and trophies. The constant challenge of the evolving level of expectations of football amateurs and fans has put the focus on the necessity for football to open the door to professionalism and expertise in everything on and off the pitch.
So football clubs have become football "companies", whose daily activity also relies on abilities outside of sport.
Given those elements, football clubs nowadays have to accept reforms, rules and laws which have been conceived without their input or opinion: it is important to take this into account.
Football clubs have to face the future of their sport.


Relationship with the governing bodies

Being part of the decision-making process at all levels (provided the issue affects the clubs' real situation) means:
to be asked for an opinion
to be able to raise an issue
to have a voice and vote where decisions are to be taken.

This ability is then a consequence of the degree at which the governing bodies are aware and convinced of the impact and legitimacy of the clubs' input in terms of the issues involved. It is also based on the average quality and variety of the input or opinion the clubs are able to provide.

Therefore, it is up to G-14 to prove that the clubs' excellence, experience and professionalism are of benefit to football in general: the first step towards this is to open a constructive dialogue with FIFA and UEFA.
 


unnameable

New member
Feb 25, 2004
1,276
Oxford/Lancing
I am concerned that clubs are being bought by rich foreigners who know nothing about the game and its place in British working-class culture. The Premiership is fast becoming akin to Fantasy Island.
 




Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,827
Uffern
Personally, I think it would be great if the G-14 clubs did go off and form a European Super League. It would make the 1st Division worth watching again and I'm not sure that a European League of no promotion or relegation would be quite a major attraction. It reminds me of the Packer cricket circus - that had the top players but with no competitive edge it quickly faded.
 


Brightonfan1983

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
4,863
UK
Personally, I think it would be great if the G-14 clubs did go off and form a European Super League. It would make the 1st Division worth watching again and I'm not sure that a European League of no promotion or relegation would be quite a major attraction. It reminds me of the Packer cricket circus - that had the top players but with no competitive edge it quickly faded.

I've been banging on about that for ages now - I think it'd be brilliant if the Premiership formed a 'super' league - we could then bring in the Conference as Div. 4 (3, whatever).

Sky would naff off with the European lot, the BBC/ITV would jump at the chance to screen competitive football for millions less.

Sure the money would drop but that'd be a positive step forward. And the G14 or 22 or whatever they become, would slowly but surely eat themselves alive. I mean, honestly, WHAT is the point of the Premiership in its present form? The only competition it represents to the rest of the teams in this country is to get in it for a season, that is all.
 


surrey jim

Not in Surrey
Aug 2, 2005
18,162
Bevendean
To be perfectly honest, I would be more concerned had he shown an interest ina lower league club. As far as I am concerned any premiership club that gets turned over by some multi-million pound dodgy geezer can go stuff themselves. I care as much about Premier league clubs as they do about Brighton.

:clap: :clap: :clap:
 




surrey jim

Not in Surrey
Aug 2, 2005
18,162
Bevendean
I mean, honestly, WHAT is the point of the Premiership in its present form? The only competition it represents to the rest of the teams in this country is to get in it for a season, that is all.

making a shit load of money via hospitality and advertising,
The prawn Sandwich brigade is where the money is not with the average guy and son from round the corner
 


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