Malky Mackay apologises to Vincent Tan

[Husty]

Either a condition for a new job or an out of court settlement.

 

[Tim Over Whelmed]

Culturally I'd guess he can have his pay off but people wouldn't want to lose face?

 

[Goldstone Rapper]

Good job for Malky - he apologises, gets a settlement and still people sense that he was in the right and Tan was in the wrong.

 

[Billy in Bristol]

Hang on, talk to any Cardiff fan, okay the one I know in Bristol, and he was ALWAYS complaining about how cautious and defensive Malky's teams were, and isn't that the often aired cliché about Senor Garcia? If you want a more expansive game, I doubt if this is the right move...

 

[Frampler]

Those apologies were written by lawyers, so I suspect as most of you do that they were a condition of settlement. Vincent Tan forked out £8m for Cornelius, so whatever he had to pay for Mackay and Moody to say sorry probably seemed good value!

 

[Leekbrookgull]

staggered if he's not going to be Norwich manager

Would not be surprised to see Tim Sherwood turn up at Carrow Road ?

 

[Mackenzie]

Nice one Malky.

 

[Guinness Boy]

I'd have him here in a heartbeat!

Get him down the Amex

Get him to the AMEX before Sunday

And here we have the three monkeys; See No Spanish, Hear No Spanish and Speak No Spanish.

Yes lads a full THREE points off last season's total and with a better result goal difference wise than the home playoff leg last season, all with a weaker squad, what we really need is to abandon the long term plan and go all in with a muscular Scottish style that's impossible to recreate at youth level. If he can recreate the multi million pound spending spree so much the better. After all if there's no club in five years at least you'll have had a laugh at that Palace fan you work with.

 

[crasher]

Hang on - there's got to be more to this than just compensation hasn't there? If Mackay had done nothing wrong, all he had to do was stick to his guns and he would have got the full compo sooner or later. Sounds much more likely that Tan has some dirt on him that he was or is about to make public.

 

[Tubby-McFat-Fuc]

And here we have the three monkeys; See No Spanish, Hear No Spanish and Speak No Spanish.

Yes lads a full THREE points off last season's total and with a better result goal difference wise than the home playoff leg last season, all with a weaker squad, what we really need is to abandon the long term plan and go all in with a muscular Scottish style that's impossible to recreate at youth level. If he can recreate the multi million pound spending spree so much the better. After all if there's no club in five years at least you'll have had a laugh at that Palace fan you work with.

****ing

What is the long term plan? How long is this long term plan going to take?

If the dull football we've been spoilt to this season is the plan, then we might as well all give up now if we lose Sunday, because the paying Amex crowd, will not put up with that crap for more than another season, and without them, then what happens to the long term plan? The die hards will be there no matter what, but its the JCLs we need to keep us up the league ,won't put up with another season of that crap, and be expected to renew their season tickets again.

Why do the youth have to play exactly the same as the first team? It's all just repeated cliche! Monkey hear, monkey say.

Is that a policy that will discourage youngsters coming here, if there is only one way to play? What's happens if the youngsters don't break into our side, if they are only taught our way, what use are they to any other side?

Is that the root of our problem? We seem so keen to play the "Brighton Way", that take last night, a team can go one down, make a few adjustments, and play on our weakness and turn the game around. On the other hand, all our managers do is stand a chat and stick with the system, even though they have been "found out"? I've not been on the Nathan Jones bashing bus, but I watched the bloke closely last night, and have to ask the question, what does he ****ing do? He stands there with hands in his pockets up round his chest, and watches the game. Not exactly a motiving sight for any player looking at the bench for direction is it! When he starts waving is hands about, no one actually takes notice of him. He was talking to himself most of the time last night. Completely ineffective.

Are we so set in our ways, with this long term plan, that we are incapable of changing games? It happened under Poyet, its now happening with Pinky and Perky.

I've said it before and I will say it a million times again. All I want is a manager who looks at the squad, and plays a system that is suited to those players. If it doesn't suit the Barcelona way, tough, lets win games and then bring the pretty football when we have the pretty players.

We can play the super Spanish barcelona way when we have the players, but all the time we have players that can't deliver a cross on a regular basis (never mind missing out the first man, we seem to time and time again miss out the whole ****ing lot of them), or can't pass the ball on the deck 10 years, I'd rather we play a system suited to the Championship and not some tippy tappy European bore system, that no Championship squad will ever be capable of playing.

And your whole argument is based on we had a better squad last season. I disagree.

 

[Tubby-McFat-Fuc]

Hang on, talk to any Cardiff fan, okay the one I know in Bristol, and he was ALWAYS complaining about how cautious and defensive Malky's teams were, and isn't that the often aired cliché about Senor Garcia? If you want a more expansive game, I doubt if this is the right move...

Does he play with a pair of Strikers (up front as in strikers, not strikers on wing, or wingers as strikers) then he'll do for me!

 

[Tubby Mondays]

When I saw the story on the BBC website I thought it was 'interesting' that the one directly beneath it was about Allardyce definitely staying at West Ham.

 

[fat old seagull]

I guess it's too much to ask that as we all support the same team, we all want the same thing. Why is that a few, not too many thankfully, seem unable to consider that others can reasonably state their point of view, without being ridiculed and abused. I guess it doesn't cross their minds that others might consider all this name calling a sign of immaturity.
That said it is still "Open Season" at Selhurst Park.

 

[The Wizard]

I just laugh at all the stuff posted about Oscar - we finished 6th in the championship. It's just unbelievable.ba certain portion of our fans are really starting to piss me off now

 

[Guinness Boy]

****ing

What is the long term plan? How long is this long term plan going to take?

I take it you never read the match day magazine or other interviews with Tony / Oscar, attend the fans meetings that TB and PB go to or listen to stuff like the Albion Roar? If you paid a bit more attention to the club you claim to support you'd know the answer. There is an Academy nearly completed - you know that whacking great building you can see from the train near Lancing - and it will be producing players who will be coached in the same style as the first team. This is so, when they get in to it, our youth players know exactly what they're doing and don't end up getting spammed on Twitter by our brain donors.

If the dull football we've been spoilt to this season is the plan, then we might as well all give up now if we lose Sunday, because the paying Amex crowd, will not put up with that crap for more than another season, and without them, then what happens to the long term plan? The die hards will be there no matter what, but its the JCLs we need to keep us up the league ,won't put up with another season of that crap, and be expected to renew their season tickets again.

Possibly the most moronic statement on NSC ever, and you're competing with The Truth. If you found Thursday dull you have no soul. It was an advert for the best this division has to offer and we were two bounces off the woodwork and a not given penalty from winning or drawing it. If we lose 5-0 on Sunday we have still achieved the same as last season except we have had a terrible injury list. Two strikers out almost the whole season. Bridcutt out for most of the time he was here. Crofts who was scoring from centre midfield for fun in the first half out for the whole second half. Orlandi, Stephens, Buckley out too much. Gee, I wonder what could possibly sort that out? Maybe a large training ground with a replica of the Amex pitch and coaches and medical staff conditioning players to play in a certain way. If only there was a long term plan for that. Oh, wait.

Was Charlton dull? Blackburn? Did you enjoy the home wins over high flying Burnley, Leicester and QPR? How about our clinical taking to bits of Leeds? The season hasn't been dull, it's been frustrating. Partly because we've not taken our chances and partly because we've been playing mostly against dull Northern Monkeys who've brought 400 odd fans, parked the bus and wasted time.

Why do the youth have to play exactly the same as the first team? It's all just repeated cliche! Monkey hear, monkey say.

See first responses.

Is that a policy that will discourage youngsters coming here, if there is only one way to play? What's happens if the youngsters don't break into our side, if they are only taught our way, what use are they to any other side?

Is that the root of our problem? We seem so keen to play the "Brighton Way", that take last night, a team can go one down, make a few adjustments, and play on our weakness and turn the game around. On the other hand, all our managers do is stand a chat and stick with the system, even though they have been "found out"? I've not been on the Nathan Jones bashing bus, but I watched the bloke closely last night, and have to ask the question, what does he ****ing do? He stands there with hands in his pockets up round his chest, and watches the game. Not exactly a motiving sight for any player looking at the bench for direction is it! When he starts waving is hands about, no one actually takes notice of him. He was talking to himself most of the time last night. Completely ineffective.

Are we so set in our ways, with this long term plan, that we are incapable of changing games? It happened under Poyet, its now happening with Pinky and Perky.

I've said it before and I will say it a million times again. All I want is a manager who looks at the squad, and plays a system that is suited to those players. If it doesn't suit the Barcelona way, tough, lets win games and then bring the pretty football when we have the pretty players.

We can play the super Spanish barcelona way when we have the players, but all the time we have players that can't deliver a cross on a regular basis (never mind missing out the first man, we seem to time and time again miss out the whole ****ing lot of them), or can't pass the ball on the deck 10 years, I'd rather we play a system suited to the Championship and not some tippy tappy European bore system, that no Championship squad will ever be capable of playing.

And your whole argument is based on we had a better squad last season. I disagree.

In other words you want Mike Basset in charge. We have the squad that suits passing football now. Oscar inherited it from Poyet. You may not have noticed but the long term plan line was being pushed the season we won League 1 at Withdean. Since then we have only taken on players who suit a passing style of football. Some have been failures. Ryan Harley didn't suit any sort of football at all. IMHO Andrews only suits a passing backwards style. Others have been successes. Orlandi last season, Crofts this (before injuries). Ward, Bridge, Bruno, Upson all excellent and none of them hoofers. If we've made real mistakes it's been up front. Getting rid of Murray was idiocy in hindisght but no one mourned him in his first season at Palarse when he scored less than 10 goals. Not recruiting other strikers when Hoskins and CMS were out long term was idiocy in hindsight but no one could have predicted their relapses and additional injuries. That said I still think our striker recruitment has been poor. That doesn't negate the fact that you're saying we should play to the squad's strengths. I say we have. We have only had one fit striker for much of the season. Therefore claiming we had a better squad this season is laughable.

 

[ozzygull]

I take it you never read the match day magazine or other interviews with Tony / Oscar, attend the fans meetings that TB and PB go to or listen to stuff like the Albion Roar? If you paid a bit more attention to the club you claim to support you'd know the answer. There is an Academy nearly completed - you know that whacking great building you can see from the train near Lancing - and it will be producing players who will be coached in the same style as the first team. This is so, when they get in to it, our youth players know exactly what they're doing and don't end up getting spammed on Twitter by our brain donors.



Possibly the most moronic statement on NSC ever, and you're competing with The Truth. If you found Thursday dull you have no soul. It was an advert for the best this division has to offer and we were two bounces off the woodwork and a not given penalty from winning or drawing it. If we lose 5-0 on Sunday we have still achieved the same as last season except we have had a terrible injury list. Two strikers out almost the whole season. Bridcutt out for most of the time he was here. Crofts who was scoring from centre midfield for fun in the first half out for the whole second half. Orlandi, Stephens, Buckley out too much. Gee, I wonder what could possibly sort that out? Maybe a large training ground with a replica of the Amex pitch and coaches and medical staff conditioning players to play in a certain way. If only there was a long term plan for that. Oh, wait.

Was Charlton dull? Blackburn? Did you enjoy the home wins over high flying Burnley, Leicester and QPR? How about our clinical taking to bits of Leeds? The season hasn't been dull, it's been frustrating. Partly because we've not taken our chances and partly because we've been playing mostly against dull Northern Monkeys who've brought 400 odd fans, parked the bus and wasted time.



See first responses.





In other words you want Mike Basset in charge. We have the squad that suits passing football now. Oscar inherited it from Poyet. You may not have noticed but the long term plan line was being pushed the season we won League 1 at Withdean. Since then we have only taken on players who suit a passing style of football. Some have been failures. Ryan Harley didn't suit any sort of football at all. IMHO Andrews only suits a passing backwards style. Others have been successes. Orlandi last season, Crofts this (before injuries). Ward, Bridge, Bruno, Upson all excellent and none of them hoofers. If we've made real mistakes it's been up front. Getting rid of Murray was idiocy in hindisght but no one mourned him in his first season at Palarse when he scored less than 10 goals. Not recruiting other strikers when Hoskins and CMS were out long term was idiocy in hindsight but no one could have predicted their relapses and additional injuries. That said I still think our striker recruitment has been poor. That doesn't negate the fact that you're saying we should play to the squad's strengths. I say we have. We have only had one fit striker for much of the season. Therefore claiming we had a better squad this season is laughable.

Agree with all of that.

 

[SweatyMexican]

In other words you want Mike Basset in charge.

Well he did take England to a world cup semi final.

 

[Tubby-McFat-Fuc]

I take it you never read the match day magazine or other interviews with Tony / Oscar, attend the fans meetings that TB and PB go to or listen to stuff like the Albion Roar? If you paid a bit more attention to the club you claim to support you'd know the answer. There is an Academy nearly completed - you know that whacking great building you can see from the train near Lancing - and it will be producing players who will be coached in the same style as the first team. This is so, when they get in to it, our youth players know exactly what they're doing and don't end up getting spammed on Twitter by our brain donors.

Doesn't really answer any of my points though does it, but a bit of mocking which I suppose is easier for you to do?

Possibly the most moronic statement on NSC ever, and you're competing with The Truth. If you found Thursday dull you have no soul. It was an advert for the best this division has to offer and we were two bounces off the woodwork and a not given penalty from winning or drawing it. If we lose 5-0 on Sunday we have still achieved the same as last season except we have had a terrible injury list. Two strikers out almost the whole season. Bridcutt out for most of the time he was here. Crofts who was scoring from centre midfield for fun in the first half out for the whole second half. Orlandi, Stephens, Buckley out too much. Gee, I wonder what could possibly sort that out? Maybe a large training ground with a replica of the Amex pitch and coaches and medical staff conditioning players to play in a certain way. If only there was a long term plan for that. Oh, wait.

Was Charlton dull? Blackburn? Did you enjoy the home wins over high flying Burnley, Leicester and QPR? How about our clinical taking to bits of Leeds? The season hasn't been dull, it's been frustrating. Partly because we've not taken our chances and partly because we've been playing mostly against dull Northern Monkeys who've brought 400 odd fans, parked the bus and wasted time.

Interesting comment? You've taken what I have said about the season and applied it to Thursday game, and called me moronic! You do seem to be reading and interpreting it to suit you. You MUST try harder.

Thursday was one of the best games of the season, and that's depressing. Was Charlton dull? YES. It was the most dull 3-0 win I have ever seen. Was QPR dull? We got battered for 70 minutes and completely mugged them at the end. I think Harry Redknapp is a bit of a dick, but his summing up of the game was spot on. QPR was no different to most other games, very dull except we got two late goals. Burnley, Leicester and Leeds were excellent games, and proof of what can be done, and I'd throw in Bolton as well, but other than that I am struggling to think where the crowd got value for money?
Tell me was Blackpool exciting or clinical?
Or Middlesbrough?
Or Wigan?
Or Birmingham?
Or Bournemouth?
Or Barnsley?
or Watford?
or Forest?
or Sheff Wednesday?
or Millwall?
or Derby?
You think another season of that, will convince the JCLs that 400-700 quid of their hard earn't cash is worth watching that? I'll make a statement now, so you cannot claim hindsight. IF next season goes along the same lines as this season, season ticket take up for 2015-16 will be down by at least a quarter. This is where the "modern rot" will set in.

As for the injury list, yes I admit it has been an issue. But don't forget when out main striker was out for 10 games, we lost once! We had a striker sitting on the bench in Lita, that Oscar never used. We have Kemy Agustien, who may be a firs class prat, but oozes class at this level, and Oscar won't use him. Bridcutt is a loss, although not as bad as some think due to Andrews (who I know some see as the new Barnes, but I think does a lot more than people see, or want to see) Crofts is a loss, but Orlandi is/was not, and Buckley is frankly a waste of time and effort, the latter two more of a hindrance to the squad than for the good of it, and hopefully both gone in the summer. It's very easy to blame injuries, but all squad have them! So in that case, if we lumber through next season, as we have done with this one, with a clean bill of health, would you say Oscar's tactics do not work? I honestly cannot say I have noticed any difference in performances due to injuries this season.

In fact one of the games you mention, Leicester we was without Kuszczak, Hoskins, Orlandi, CMS, Ulloa, Buckley, JFC, LuaLua's first game back on the bench. Yet we turned in one the better performances of the season! Sort of blows that theory out of the water!

In other words you want Mike Basset in charge. We have the squad that suits passing football now. Oscar inherited it from Poyet. You may not have noticed but the long term plan line was being pushed the season we won League 1 at Withdean. Since then we have only taken on players who suit a passing style of football. Some have been failures. Ryan Harley didn't suit any sort of football at all. IMHO Andrews only suits a passing backwards style. Others have been successes. Orlandi last season, Crofts this (before injuries). Ward, Bridge, Bruno, Upson all excellent and none of them hoofers. If we've made real mistakes it's been up front. Getting rid of Murray was idiocy in hindisght but no one mourned him in his first season at Palarse when he scored less than 10 goals. Not recruiting other strikers when Hoskins and CMS were out long term was idiocy in hindsight but no one could have predicted their relapses and additional injuries. That said I still think our striker recruitment has been poor. That doesn't negate the fact that you're saying we should play to the squad's strengths. I say we have. We have only had one fit striker for much of the season. Therefore claiming we had a better squad this season is laughable.

Why do people think, because you want to play two up front, you want to play the "Mike Bassett" way! Agree that getting rid of Murray was madness, and I don't say that with hindsight, it was obvious at the time . We have Poyet to thank for that. But to say he lack striker when we had Lita sitting on the bench for nearly 3 months is a bit strong. How do you expect us to recruit another striker. We play with one striker, the same as we play with one goalkeeper. We have about as much chance of recruiting a top class goalkeeper to sit on the bench behind Kuszczak as we do a top class striker to sit on the bench behind Ulloa or play out wide in a midfield 5!

 

[rcf0712]

maybe he's lined up for a job and his new Chairman has told him he has to settle everything before starting? That's what I would do if I was a Chairman who wanted a manager who was in dispute with his previous employers. I'd want my guy to be focused on my club, not past history. I wonder which club?

So he won't be going to Sunderland then when Gus goes to West Ham.....