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Cairo, Mumbai, Addis Ababa. to name a few
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Laughable to compare Ethiopia with Kenya. Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics
https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowT..._Countries_To_Live_In_The_World-Ethiopia.html
https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowT..._Countries_To_Live_In_The_World-Ethiopia.html
Tripadvisor ? Pretty good to see if your hotel room in Krakow is clean and the scrambled egg for breakfast is ok but I really wouldn’t put their opinion forward in a debate about the worlds safest cities.
Fred and Margeret from Shropshire.
sir albion
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You honestly believe that and you're presuming that most middle to right voters never existed before the likes of trump and farage came along
I'd say in decades gone by we have more middle to right in this country than middle to left....Just that in the last 15 years change around Europe and here have changed people's minds on what Europe is all about and where it's going.Its just been far to liberal in the last 10/20 years and change is needed fast !!!!
It's not tripadvisors opinion. A link from another source is just featured there
Dr Bandler
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I have been to all of them. Indeed all poor, relatively safe, and certainly no "gangsta" style gangs.
You’ve lost me. The thread started out with people claiming Germany was unsafe due to a bus attack in which no one died. Yet there was a huge terror attack in Mumbai in2008 that accounted for around 165 people. It is still high up on the cities in India likely to have a terror attack according to the FCO (I was researching a trip to India for work the other day). Are you saying Mumbai is safer than Germany?
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The debate moved on and some people were trying to make a link between crime and poverty and were asking about places with a large population that had a low crime rate. That's how Mumbai came into the mix.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
As a woman, I wouldn't feel safe in any of them. I would feel safe in Germany.
Haven't been to Mumbai or Cairo for a while, but am in Addis every year and perfectly safe day or night. No problem with Mrs Shingle walking alone in the Piazza (Addis) or Imbaba (Cairo) both poor districts
Stats and sources please.
You honestly believe that and you're presuming that most middle to right voters never existed before the likes of trump and farage came along
I'd say in decades gone by we have more middle to right in this country than middle to left....Just that in the last 15 years change around Europe and here have changed people's minds on what Europe is all about and where it's going.Its just been far to liberal in the last 10/20 years and change is needed fast !!!!
No. I never claimed any of that. You seem to have based a counter argument on nothing but false assumption. Oh, I’ve just seen which poster you are, no surprises there.
Did you ever leave your hotel in Mumbai? Come on, it suffers from the issues just like every other major city I’d argue more.Just a quick look. This from the Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/news/da...ork-crime-free-day-deadliest-cities-worldwide
Neither Addis or Mumbai make it on the list. Only suspect Cairo does because of Terror related stuff.
FFS if you're ranked below Reykjavik you're doing ok
The Spanish
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Ever since the attacks most Mumbai hotels have levels of security that are mind boggling by western standards, even places like London or Paris which have suffered multiple attacks.
As a regular visitor over many years to Mumbai the attacks utterly transformed the city. To compare Berlin, an utter global backwater which has no colonial link to Islamic countries like London or Paris or in India’s case an internal and immediate external link to Islam, is laughable anyway.
“Gangsta” style gangs.
Sound the Daily Mail believer claxon please!
Sound the Daily Mail believer claxon please!
Sweden doesn’t even make the list despite [MENTION=4232]Dr Bandler[/MENTION] thinking its Hell’s very own kitchen.
Dr Bandler
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Yes, and I wouldn't describe it as the most comfortable experience in the world, but I didn't feel unsafe (unlike, for example, in Johannesburg). Interestingly, Cairo used to be much safer under Mubarak, but once he was gone and the Muslim Brotherhood took over low level crime and crimes against women increased. I am assuming it is decreasing again under el-Sisi.