blue-shifted
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If any mods are watching, I reckon this should be back on the main board now. It's not like there are hundreds of threads like there was in March. It should help keep the guff off the good news thread
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Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread
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beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 36,026
particularly interesting one is Singapore, i thought they were supposed to have things sussed.
That is interesting, the weird thing is that the UK, Sweden and Holland had quite loose "lock downs" and dont seem to be any worse or in fact doing better that most ? Ans a few of the countries that had the strictest lock downs are now seeing a spike in cases ??
I would also like to see a graph of how may of these infections result in hospital or even more sadly deaths as looking at some graphs infections are rising but death rates and hospital rates are dropping quickly ?
darkwolf666
Well-known member
Machiavelli
Well-known member
I'd go along with this. If I remember rightly, [MENTION=6886]Bozza[/MENTION] posed this question early June when this sub-area was still buoyant, although with noticeably declining levels of participation. I asked to keep it back then, but would welcome its incorporation into the main board now too.
Government website being decommissioned next week.
Wonder why? Cause the figures are all wrong?
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
Wonder why? Cause the figures are all wrong?
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 25,878
Separate households will not be allowed to meet indoors in Greater Manchester, East Lancashire and parts of West Yorkshire from midnight, the government has announced.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53602362
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53602362
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
- 28,273
Announced late at night on a Thursday evening, surely it would have been better to announce it via a proper press conference or statement 4 hours earlier when people might have been made aware?.... #WorldBeating
Baker lite
Banned
Radio 5 has a phone in on now. Someone is giving what sounds like offcial, or expert, advice.
Two parts of a larger family who live apart in greater Manchester plan to holiday together in a cottage in Cornwall. The advice given was 'you are breaking the guidelines as you are not part of a bubble and come from a lockdown area so don't do it'.
But if you are not from one of the new areas it is OK (or probably OK - not entirely clear; 'as long as you social distance' - but what about the Mancunians?). That's lucky, we are doing exactly that with Mrs T's sister and family (who live in the west midlands) in a week or so. Or possibly not.
Lots of bafflement, as others have noted.
This law changes seems to have been brought in to target those planning to celebrate Eid with people outside their bubbles. I don't have a problem with this per se (if justified - and I don't know if it is), but I do have a problem with the government being gutless about explaining. Someone phoned in last night to say their Manchester borough had been put into lockdown yet they had had no new cases for ages. More gutlessness - not targeting Muslim areas for fear of causing offence? I though the current stage of intervention was targetted.
And knowing this clueless government there is probably no actual evidence that new spikes are due to Muslims hugging and sharing meals.
Yoda
English & European
All while the 7 day average down here has continued to fall. This is why local measures were taken. There have been 3 times more cases reported nationwide today than there has been in the whole of the South East for the past week.
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
blue-shifted
Banned
Completely agree. What we need is accurate, understandable data so that we can go about our lives safely. What we have is a complete fog. Partly this is the media, doing what they do to chase clicks and headlines. Partly it's also about the official figures. Personally I think hospitalisations is a good first indicator of an actual increase in cases. As far as I can tell, they are heading in the right direction in the south east
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
You can add 111 calls to that hospitalisation figure...it’s kind of ironic that gov.uk run an advert on Talksport about false information re this virus...perhaps they should look at the point you raise
Surely if you go to an area where cases are high and test a lot of people the cases will rise.
Come down to Sussex where at the moment its 3 in every 100,000 at there would be a lot of negatives....mind you that would not sell papers or satisfy the second wave brigade.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 36,026
public needs less data, more information and guidance. too much data has circulated without sufficent understanding, news feeding daily, hourly updates with supercede, correct or overwise invalidate previous data has created a lot of confusion. and thats before we get to misinformation, undue weight given to isolated stories. a case study for irresponsible media and needing to limit their output.
darkwolf666
Well-known member
And a government that can get joined up thinking and provide accurate figures so the news agencies you seem to blame wouldn't be playing a guessing game!
Oh and when you say "limit their output" do you mean censorship? Are you Donald Trump or Dominic Cummings in disguise?