Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[Kinky Gerbil]

I used to think this as well but unfortunately the excess death toll was the breaking point, if people had this quite readily here in winter you’d have expected the excess deaths to be that of a really bad flu season, which they weren't. It’s intriguing though, remember the man in France who had it in late December, and wasn’t diagnosed until months later when they retested samples.

I wonder if we will ever know.

I think we have had this discussion before - but this could be the second wave

Then again someone pointed out as this isn’t there flu there is a chance it would have one.

 

[CheeseRolls]

Well I never, really surprising.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...er-outbreak-in-wuhan-researchers-say-12003393

It's sort of flimsy though isn't it?

There was a story a while back that ISIS were selling off naked virgin prisoners in cages that their front line soldiers had already been gifted. If that sounds like a confusing bunch of nonsense, that was the impression I got. Not exactly champions of Women's rights, but this didn't seem to fit with anything other than a need for propaganda. So COVID started earlier because the hospital car parks appeared busy on satellite pictures? I suspect it started a good 25 years ago at the Sussex County if that is the criteria.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Yeah I read that too, would certainly tie in with the many claims of people here saying they had it in December, January and February (myself included).

There's a guy who works in my mate's office who has a wife who is based in, guess where, Wuhan. He went there to see her in December, came back with a dry cough and ended up ventilated with pneumonia. They then had a bout of flu-ish illness in the office in early Jan. Of course, it could have been flu.

My daughter had three days worth of temperature, headache and dry cough in October and was diagnosed with flu. I remember it was weird because she recovered very, very quickly and because it was a week BEFORE she was due to have the flu jab at school - i.e. outside of recognised flu season. Since lockdown three of us (me, my Mrs and son) have all had mild Covid symptoms but I still have a cough after two months and have a reduced sense of smell. My daughter has had none of this. Of course, it could have been flu.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Christ Sharma is useless

Can we just bin this briefing now?

Pointless.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Christ Sharma is useless

Can we just bin this briefing now?

Pointless.

Thought he was dying of the rona. Has a miracle occurred?

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

Christ Sharma is useless

Can we just bin this briefing now?

Pointless.

You stole my words! It is almost an insult now. Sharma answered not one question directly as far as I could tell. I think the most useful thing the journos could do would be to collectively boycott these things.

 

[Weststander]

There's a guy who works in my mate's office who has a wife who is based in, guess where, Wuhan. He went there to see her in December, came back with a dry cough and ended up ventilated with pneumonia. They then had a bout of flu-ish illness in the office in early Jan. Of course, it could have been flu.

My daughter had three days worth of temperature, headache and dry cough in October and was diagnosed with flu. I remember it was weird because she recovered very, very quickly and because it was a week BEFORE she was due to have the flu jab at school - i.e. outside of recognised flu season. Since lockdown three of us (me, my Mrs and son) have all had mild Covid symptoms but I still have a cough after two months and have a reduced sense of smell. My daughter has had none of this. Of course, it could have been flu.

You’re one of just 5% then. BBC’s Dr Chris Smith is still of the view that only 5% of the UK population have ever had covid19, when diplomatically fielding phone calls from members of the public who are pretty certain they’ve had the virus.

 

[BLOCK F]

Christ Sharma is useless

Can we just bin this briefing now?

Pointless.

They really are a waste of time now.
As you say, bin them unless there is something new to say.

 

[The Wizard]

They need to make them perhaps a couple of times a week, Tuesday and Friday perhaps? At this point there simply isn’t enough news to warrant an hour of waffling and the questions are the same nonsense everyday, even I’ve stopped watching these press conferences now and I’ve been watching them since the beginning. (Yes sad I know)

 

[Guinness Boy]

You’re one of just 5% then. BBC’s Dr Chris Smith is still of the view that only 5% of the UK population have ever had covid19, when diplomatically fielding phone calls from members of the public who are pretty certain they’ve had the virus.

Only full, effective antibody testing will prove that one way or another. 5% would be 3.5 million people. That's quite a few.

 

[The Wizard]

This is a truly shocking chart, one of the most shocking I’ve seen of this crisis and really does show what this climate of fear has caused.

 

[wehatepalace]

I used to think this as well but unfortunately the excess death toll was the breaking point, if people had this quite readily here in winter you’d have expected the excess deaths to be that of a really bad flu season, which they weren't. It’s intriguing though, remember the man in France who had it in late December, and wasn’t diagnosed until months later when they retested samples.

I wonder if we will ever know.

Yeah that’s the only part that doesn’t add up, but it would be hard to believe in this day and age, if it was prevalent in China it September that it wouldn’t have reached our shores by December.
Could it be it started on a very slow upward curve before it really spiked ?
I guess we’ll never know but I do know that I was as ill as I’ve ever been in early December, and it spread through my rugby team and workplace like wildfire, with both my wife and daughter sick too but with lesser symptoms.
It was the cough that really took it out of me, it was probably mid January before it really got better and didn’t hurt to take a deep breath.

 

[oldboyroy]

I must of just had some sort of normal cold or mild flu then at Christmas. It was bad for me as normally I would get a cough and cold and just carry on as normal lasting a few days. Christmas and new year was a good 2 weeks or so and for a few days struggled to get out of bed. Again, for me that's rare if at all. If it was Corona virus then it would of been much worse.

 

[LamieRobertson]

They need to make them perhaps a couple of times a week, Tuesday and Friday perhaps? At this point there simply isn’t enough news to warrant an hour of waffling and the questions are the same nonsense everyday, even I’ve stopped watching these press conferences now and I’ve been watching them since the beginning. (Yes sad I know)

I only watched the first one

 

[LamieRobertson]

This is a truly shocking chart, one of the most shocking I’ve seen of this crisis and really does show what this climate of fear has caused.

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Did you grab that off a twitter thread? Ive not seen it discussed anywhere

 

[The Wizard]

Did you grab that off a twitter thread? Ive not seen it discussed anywhere

Yeah, can’t find the post now though was certainly a reliable source, will update if I find it!

Fantastic news here for Zoos, they will be allowed to re open next week! A good friend of mine works at London Zoo and has been worried sick about her job.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...-reopen-in-latest-easing-of-lockdown-12003740

 

[rogersix]

They need to make them perhaps a couple of times a week, Tuesday and Friday perhaps? At this point there simply isn’t enough news to warrant an hour of waffling and the questions are the same nonsense everyday, even I’ve stopped watching these press conferences now and I’ve been watching them since the beginning. (Yes sad I know)

they will stop, as soon as you stop.

please stop.

 

[Billy the Fish]

This is a truly shocking chart, one of the most shocking I’ve seen of this crisis and really does show what this climate of fear has caused.

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This morning's headlines are quite interesting. The press seem to be realising there's knock on effect of lockdown.

I reckon all the people who were apoplectic about relaxing the SD rules will be losing it over schools not being open, waiting lists, indirect deaths, job losses etc by this time next week.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

This is a truly shocking chart, one of the most shocking I’ve seen of this crisis and really does show what this climate of fear has caused.

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The full consequences of this prolonged lockdown will become clear in time and the utter devastation it has caused now and for many years ahead with the increased death toll that has nothing to do with Covid 19 but as a result of deciding to bankrupt the whole country and the poverty that will ensue destroying millions of lives. The high street will be unrecognisable across the country by the end of the year and the hospitality sector gone as it is not possible to run a business with 2 meters apart let alone 1. What is alarming is the social distancing is here to stay with no one questioning it and why it is even if the virus is no longer here and just accepting the " new normal "

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

The full consequences of this prolonged lockdown will become clear in time and the utter devastation it has caused now and for many years ahead with the increased death toll that has nothing to do with Covid 19 but as a result of deciding to bankrupt the whole country and the poverty that will ensue destroying millions of lives. The high street will be unrecognisable across the country by the end of the year and the hospitality sector gone as it is not possible to run a business with 2 meters apart let alone 1. What is alarming is the social distancing is here to stay with no one questioning it and why it is even if the virus is no longer here and just accepting the " new normal "

Those defending this farce will be tagging those deaths as covid related, watch.