Total lockdown - predictions thread anyone?
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Blue Valkyrie
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Army roll out of bases and impose lockdown at 3am Tuesday morning.
The Wizard
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I’m going for Tuesday also, perhaps Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. Although I feel a lockdown should have happened Friday personally, so many families and people disregarding the rules for Mother’s Day, can’t help but feel that could be catastrophic down the line.
ManOfSussex
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Total lockdown - predictions thread anyone?
The weather is set fair, so plenty of people will continue to go out and about as normal, including people not working - I saw Wetherspoon's bar staff I recognised walking about as normal yesterday afternoon for example - Social distancing is just not taking place as it should, people aren't listening to the advice, or even heard the advice at all and I can't see that changing anytime soon, so I'm going for..........................................
..............from tonight. A bold prediction that could well be wrong, but that's my final answer - from tonight.
The Wizard
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It’s certainly quieter outside than usual, of that there is no doubt, but I’m seeing pictures of hoards of people in supermarkets in very close proximity, small parks packed full of children and parents interacting, busy beaches, markets in London packed full of people ect with the weather perfect for the next 4/5 days it will only continue and it simply cannot be allowed to continue, something has to be done. The people of this country are clearly too thick or selfish to take action themselves.
It’s so damming on the society we live in that people are so unbelievably selfish and unaware of what they are doing, and the ramifications actions will have for innocent vulnerable people who need people to be responsible, truly sad but I guess it’s similar in other countries like Spain and Italy as well, they flouted the rules and are now feeling the consequences. I’m in no doubt we are heading the same way, and that’s a dreadful thought.
It’s so damming on the society we live in that people are so unbelievably selfish and unaware of what they are doing, and the ramifications actions will have for innocent vulnerable people who need people to be responsible, truly sad but I guess it’s similar in other countries like Spain and Italy as well, they flouted the rules and are now feeling the consequences. I’m in no doubt we are heading the same way, and that’s a dreadful thought.
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Agree, I think this is one of the articles the “it’s just a flu mate, you doomsayer” folk were peddling around as some kind of proof.
Whilst completely ignoring what was happening in Asia and starting to happen in Italy. Looking back it was actually a very dangerous complacency.
I’m torn. Glad and relieved people are finally waking up to the severity of the crisis, yet I’d much rather have been proved wrong. Looking at the trends and the British public’s reaction (even now with crowds etc), I fear we are going to be have a larger peak than Italy.
Agree, I think this is one of the articles the “it’s just a flu mate, you doomsayer” folk were peddling around as some kind of proof.
Whilst completely ignoring what was happening in Asia and starting to happen in Italy. Looking back it was actually a very dangerous complacency.
I’m torn. Glad and relieved people are finally waking up to the severity of the crisis, yet I’d much rather have been proved wrong. Looking at the trends and the British public’s reaction (even now with crowds etc), I fear we are going to be have a larger peak than Italy.
Thunder Bolt
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The Argus shows hundreds on the seafront.
Traffic jams in Snowdonia and National Parks. Stay at home people!
Birdie Boy
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The person that took that photo is adding to the issue. Why are they there? Same as all these photos of tesco queues.
People say this is crazy and then go there and take a photo!
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No, you weren't right about herd immunity. We can have herd immunity, once a vaccine is out. It is unlikely to be prevented by the fact that the virus mutated and jumped species etc. Where the government have made a mistake is in the idea that we can allow people to become infected, recover, and then provide the herd immunity we're after. It would actually work, but hundreds of thousands would die in the process. Again, it wouldn't be the virus mutating and re-infecting people that would be the problem.
I can't speak for other parts but from my pretty good vantage point here it has all be very well respected. Indeed the only ones that were ignoring the advice were quite obviously tourists and most of those are Brits.
Since going into lockdown the streets have been all but deserted. We are allowed out (1 person per household) for food shopping and pharmacy. The shelves have been well stocked since the beginning, they let a few in at a time where hands are sanitsed and disposable gloves given. Everyone keeps their distance
The numbers are still going up at similar rates to elsewhere which shows how virilant it is and how there is a good lag between contracting it and the symptons (if any) emerging
We have a flight home booked for Tuesday and I am really unsure ... but Mrs Rat feels anxious about being stuck here for 3/4+ months by which time the Island economy will be in shreds and local people (mostly low paid in tourism) really feeling the pinch.
I understand her anxiety ... we're between a rock and a hard place
Indeed.
Obviously we just want to have been wrong. I've not been mentally affected by this yet, but I know we're just at the start, and I am very concerned about what will happen over the next few months.
I'm still confident (and hopeful) that Solid at the back was misguided in his view that half the world would die, but his suggestions of closing borders look pretty appealing right now.
Although our numbers do seem worryingly high, and appear to following theirs, is it not still true that Italy was in a more vulnerable position to start with, due to their older population (and smoking habits, and close contact culture etc)?
jessiejames
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Yes 4 pm.
The Spanish
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BBC quoting New York mayor as saying they are 10 days away from a shortage of supplies. Further down it becomes clear that’s in the context of ventilators specifically (Serious enough) , but it appears to be clickbait inferring supplies in general. That could have serious implications for social cohesion. That this sort of thing is still being published, and that no one is pulling anyone up on this style of reporting, is deeply concerning. I am no fake news conspiracy theorist but this is staring everyone in the face - the media is out of control.
Are you in Tenerife, or stuck on the Strait of Gibraltar?
Yet ANOTHER topic in which you are a world authority!
Herd immunity was talked about in terms of, if enough people got infected, we would gain herd immunity. Don't twist the facts to suggest we would let the virus run riot, because a vaccine would be along soon.
Quite an ironic post given that you were the one quoting yourself and trying to claim you were some sort of guru. And although you mock, do feel free to go through my posts since the start of the thread and see if I got it wrong.
Yes that's right, that is what they said. It was poor advice. Although we we would eventually get herd immunity, it would involve the deaths of hundreds of thousands, so it's a bad idea. But you claimed it wouldn't work because this super virus would mutate and people wouldn't be immune. That's not correct.
I haven't, you've not understood the posts. A vaccine isn't expected soon (obviously we're hoping it's here asap).
The Spanish
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Time to curb the press and official statements only. The distortion of the herd immunity issue has allowed it to run riot online and become established in many people’s minds as government policy. I cannot for the life of me understand how any news outlet can be motivated to distort, sensationalize or create misleading clickbait at this time.
Strange then that you already know the outcome of human trials, how it works and its effectiveness.