Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[Wozza]

Demand for delivery slots will be interesting....tad hard to if you havnt the internet

Indeed.

I'm currently reserving slots 3 weeks ahead - but usually do anyway.

Tesco has a Delivery Saver thing which means you pay a flat monthly fee - v cheap for mid-weeks.

Ocado no longer taking new customers. Others may follow.

(Bring back Unigate milk deliveries!)

 

[Guinness Boy]

And again for some pragmatic balance...


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-scotland-51876080

In a weird way that's also terrifying.

Reading that, I had exactly the same symptoms two weeks ago. They were incredibly mild and I was fine after a night in bed and day off work. I worked from home all that week anyway but at no point did I think "shit this is coronavirus". NO cough, NO sore throat just felt a bit shit. I put it down to fatigue as I've been marathon training and had done an 18 mile run followed by quite a few beers the day before.

I'm not saying I've had it. I could have just had a bit of fatigue and a nasty hangover as suspected. But I will never know. What I do know if that no one in my family had the same thing or has had any symptoms that are even close, nor are there any cases among my friends and colleagues.

It's just WEIRD. Quite clear now that you could have something that is almost nothing at all, or that you could be knocked out for weeks, or worse. It's like a ****ing lottery

 

[LamieRobertson]

Indeed.

I'm currently reserving slots 3 weeks ahead.

Tesco has a Delivery Saver thing which means you pay a flat monthly fee - v cheap for mid-weeks.

Ocado no longer taking new customers. Others may follow.

Sensible

 

[Creaky]

That's the spirit.


Just cannot understand anyone over 70 not staying in unless they have a death wish .... Pure stupidity and selfish for everyone else.

 

[Nobby]

I get that but why has no other country in the world suggested a 4 month lock in for over 70s ?

Is it because most other European countries have a health service that hasn’t been underfunded for many years and is therefore more able to cope for longer?

Desperate requisition of private hospital beds and please please help us manufacture respirators could be a clue?

Not trying to be controversial honestly, as I don’t know if other countries are also doing this

 

[LamieRobertson]

In a weird way that's also terrifying.

Reading that, I had exactly the same symptoms two weeks ago. They were incredibly mild and I was fine after a night in bed and day off work. I worked from home all that week anyway but at no point did I think "shit this is coronavirus". NO cough, NO sore throat just felt a bit shit. I put it down to fatigue as I've been marathon training and had done an 18 mile run followed by quite a few beers the day before.

I'm not saying I've had it. I could have just had a bit of fatigue and a nasty hangover as suspected. But I will never know. What I do know if that no one in my family had the same thing or has had any symptoms that are even close, nor are there any cases among my friends and colleagues.

It's just WEIRD. Quite clear now that you could have something that is almost nothing at all, or that you could be knocked out for weeks, or worse. It's like a ****ing lottery

Try having some sort of cough/cold on and off since Boxing Day ...judge that one

 

[Silverhatch]

The mass isolation of over 70s will not happen, and if the government send in troops or police to enforce some sort of dystopian/draconian crackdown on their movement then we are truly and completely ****ed anyway. I know some over 70s who are super fit and active. I'd give them a better than 5-1 chance of recovering unscathed against some 40 year olds I know. The individual needs to take some responsibility for their actions but a blanket "you have to withdraw from society" can only be being considered if the authorities know this is some designer, population control virus that can intelligently gauge your age before infecting you.

 

[RossyG]

I think I’m right in saying that the over-70s staying indoors thing will be a recommendation only and not something that’ll actually be enforced like some online seem to believe. It’ll be like a warning on a fag packet; ignore it at your own risk, but ultimately it’s a free choice.

 

[Bozza]

In a weird way that's also terrifying.

Reading that, I had exactly the same symptoms two weeks ago. They were incredibly mild and I was fine after a night in bed and day off work. I worked from home all that week anyway but at no point did I think "shit this is coronavirus". NO cough, NO sore throat just felt a bit shit. I put it down to fatigue as I've been marathon training and had done an 18 mile run followed by quite a few beers the day before.

I'm not saying I've had it. I could have just had a bit of fatigue and a nasty hangover as suspected. But I will never know. What I do know if that no one in my family had the same thing or has had any symptoms that are even close, nor are there any cases among my friends and colleagues.

It's just WEIRD. Quite clear now that you could have something that is almost nothing at all, or that you could be knocked out for weeks, or worse. It's like a ****ing lottery

This chap is probably a similar demographic to you and I - 40s and does a fair amount of exercise. Most of us just won't know unless we're tested, and to be tested you need to be pretty ill....

Park Hyun, a 48-year-old university professor, took pains to ensure his health. He went to the gym five days a week and maintained his personal hygiene, washing his hands all the time and “overusing” hand sanitiser – but that didn’t stop him from being infected with the coronavirus.

“I was naive and stupid to think that [the outbreak] is not my problem. Yes, as usual, I was stupidly overconfident.”​

https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/heal...upidly-overconfident-south-korean-coronavirus

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Like all the government plans being announced the over 70's isolation plan will collapse in a day or less when the practicalities are exposed

Give it a rest.

 

[Bozza]

The role the young play in this, and the big problem with their "It's not a problem for me, so **** it" attitude...

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[LamieRobertson]

I think I’m right in saying that the over-70s staying indoors thing will be a recommendation only and not something that’ll actually be enforced like some online seem to believe. It’ll be like a warning on a fag packet; ignore it at your own risk, but ultimately it’s a free choice.

Unfortunately there will be armed checkpoints at the end of each road demanding birth certificates and various passwords like your inside leg measurement..akin to using online banking

 

[Bodian]

How would you know if you feel crap and shivery if you have a common cold, a random virus, a normal flu or corona ?

You won’t so you self isolate anyway [emoji106]

Yes, good question. One of my colleagues has been off for a week with 'the lurgi'. She's been at home on her own for 10 days now - but has no idea whether it is a heavy cold (she's prone to them), minor flu, or coronavirus.

How does she know if she has had it, and is recovering - and is therefore part of the 'herd immunity'. Who knows without testing? And that's where this herd immunity plan may go wrong - how do we know which of us can help our elderly neighbours, and go back to work safely without mass testing for antibodies? For instance, I'm generally pretty healthy and fit enough. I almost feel that if I'm in the 'not particularly vulnerable' section of society, and am going to get this at some time come what may, I'd rather have it relatively early on - and then can help others and go to work. We often pop in to chat and help our elderly neighbours - and if we have to avoid them, they may avoid corona, but they'll also lose quite a lot of other stuff like mental well-being through social contact and so on.

But none of us may ever know without an easy test.

What's also needed is some sort of badge saying 'I've had it' - so the 'I've had it's' can mingle together, and the vulnerable who haven't wouldn't need to be too concerned about coming into contact with them.

On the 'does anyone know anyone' - a chap I pass in the street a lot who lives about 200 yards away has facebooked to say that he is almost certain he has it. He's been in self-isolation for nearly two weeks, and the doctor won't let him anywhere near the surgery. So, again, he hasn't been tested - so may never know. But is pretty sure.

 

[Nobby]

Sainsbury’s online don’t seem to have any slots left for the next three weeks

So not only do we have panic buying we also have panic buying of delivery slots

So looks like any quarantine for the over 70’s is fecked unless they have someone to go shopping for them

FFS

 

[Nobby]

Give it a rest.

So you think that he’s wrong then? Care to explain why he is wrong?

 

[CHAPPERS]

The role the young play in this, and the big problem with their "It's not a problem for me, so **** it" attitude...

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Ever so slightly unfair? The noises coming from the government are quite confused and EVERYTHING is still open. What are they supposed to think?

 

[dingodan]

Not sure if this has been mentioned but...

France: "91 deaths — half of whom were people under 50"

https://nypost.com/2020/03/14/france-imposes-widespread-shut-down-to-stop-coronavirus-spread/

 

[Guinness Boy]

This chap is probably a similar demographic to you and I - 40s and does a fair amount of exercise. Most of us just won't know unless we're tested, and to be tested you need to be pretty ill....

Park Hyun, a 48-year-old university professor, took pains to ensure his health. He went to the gym five days a week and maintained his personal hygiene, washing his hands all the time and “overusing” hand sanitiser – but that didn’t stop him from being infected with the coronavirus.

“I was naive and stupid to think that [the outbreak] is not my problem. Yes, as usual, I was stupidly overconfident.”​

https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/heal...upidly-overconfident-south-korean-coronavirus

Yep, exactly the same age and very similar exercise routine. Backs up what I was saying though. Arteta (10 years younger admittedly) recovered in a day or two.

And you're right, his case should serve as a warning against complacency and certainly confirms how wrong I was at the start of this thread. However, I've noticed on this thread it's just the same old people posting over and over again (probably cos we're all stuck inside and bored). In the wider world, most of my mates are getting on with life and getting on the sauce. The bloke I go to games with used his "downtime" yesterday to go for a long walk on the downs and then get slaughtered in a country pub. Loads of people out running this morning on the seafront. People are cracking on while they can.

 

[Bozza]

So you think that he’s wrong then? Care to explain why he is wrong?

What IS wrong is the near-continuous petty political point-scoring.

There's nothing constructive about it. There's no alternative suggestions for how the hell we deal with the problem of a large number of people who are very vulnerable to a disease that no one has any immunity from.

I've been mulling a post to try and help make this a more peaceful place. Lots of people will be going through severe anxiety and we all have different ways of coping, be it focusing on things that seem ridiculously irrelevant or engaging in some gallows humour. I don't want to ban people from threads or the whole site itself, as I'm mindful that when physical contact may be reducing for some, online contact can help. But for the love of ****ing god - this poster should just drop his political shit for a while.

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[Harry Wilson's tackle]

One thing not being talked about enough is the decision just to test people who have been hospitalised. This is an absolutely disastrous policy. Widespread testing is key. There is a decline in cases in South Korea mainly because they are testing 20,000 people a day, including drive thru tests. And it's having an impact.

My guess is because Patrick Vallance is not cut out for the job. My expectation is that Cummings will have his bollocks by Tuesday at the latest.