Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[Fred Oliver - Legend]

We have taken it upon ourselves to take our children out of school initially for a month starting from today.

 

[pb21]

Did you just make that up?

The evidence that I have read is that they catch it as often as other age groups but get it milder. The downside to this for everyone else is that kids are still able to 'go out and play' and happily spread it around.

Some of the things said on here include:

Covid-19 is no worse than flu (i.e it’s a cold FFS, MTFU);
children don’t get the virus and therefore don’t pass it on;
you are more likely to die going for a drive than catching Covid-19; and
Etc.

If all the above were true then I would understand people's astonishment the amount of concern Covid-19 is generating and their apparent reluctance to accept the measures that are being taken/proposed.

However these points aren’t true.

 

[Wrong-Direction]

The Brexit thread is bad enough without having "son of..."!

My point, really, is letting a single issue dictate how you vote will inevitably lead to the party or person you voted for letting you down over other issues. It could be the "B Word", Heathrow Third Runway, green issues, whatever. If voting for a party then consider their manifesto and leadership as a whole, and if voting for a person then vote for the best likely MP for your local area.

I do appreciate that the choice between Johnson and Corbyn was not an easy one for many of us.

There were others to vote for to stop total power.

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[Guinness Boy]

There were others to vote for to stop total power.

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Of course, but many of these are single issue parties anyway. The Lib Dems turned themselves into a remainer only party, the opposite of Boris. Greens and nationalists are single issue parties with no record at all in UK governance. As much as I really do like Caroline Lucas as a person and MP the Green Party were a disaster just running Brighton. Imagine them running the country during a coronavirus outbreak. Extra kale and echinacea all round and a spurious travel ban,

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Some of the things said on here include:

Covid-19 is no worse than flu (i.e it’s a cold FFS, MTFU);
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Nobody has said flu is like a cold. Flu kills millions every year, which is why a vaccine is made every year of the latest strains known to scientists.

 

[Insel affe]

Probably already been posted:
How did Dean Koontz know about the Coronavirus 39 years ago? How did he know that it would be created in Wuhan, the place in China where it originated from? It would appear that our friend Covid-19 was created in a lab in China and has been unleashed on the world. There was a doctor in China who knew about this early on and Chinese authorities did their best to keep him quiet. He died from the virus. Is the Coronavirus China's solution to the over population of their country and the planet??

 

[Guinness Boy]

Some of the things said on here include:

Covid-19 is no worse than flu (i.e it’s a cold FFS, MTFU);
children don’t get the virus and therefore don’t pass it on;
you are more likely to die going for a drive than catching Covid-19; and
Etc.

If all the above were true then I would understand people's astonishment the amount of concern Covid-19 is generating and their apparent reluctance to accept the measures that are being taken/proposed.

However these points aren’t true.

Globally you are (but we can't count globally according to Trig).

In the UK you definitely currently are (but we can't count that according to Trig either because the numbers of people with covid-19 in the UK are currently "too low", ironically)

Perhaps in the next six to twelve weeks that may not be true but you don't know that any better than I do.

The last pandemic panic in the UK was swine flu. The worst case prediction was that 65,000 people would die from it in the UK. Fewer than 1000 in the UK actually did.

 

[pb21]

Nobody has said flu is like a cold. Flu kills millions every year, which is why a vaccine is made every year of the latest strains known to scientists.

There have been plenty of people saying Covid-19 is no worse than flu, and there have been people saying its a "new type of cold", which clearly implies they think it's trivial.

What because 15 people in the UK have a new type of cold? Ok then.

 

[Lenny Rider]

Probably already been posted:
How did Dean Koontz know about the Coronavirus 39 years ago? How did he know that it would be created in Wuhan, the place in China where it originated from? It would appear that our friend Covid-19 was created in a lab in China and has been unleashed on the world. There was a doctor in China who knew about this early on and Chinese authorities did their best to keep him quiet. He died from the virus. Is the Coronavirus China's solution to the over population of their country and the planet??

Extremely sinister...…..


Just out of interest does anyone know if we do play behind closed doors are the club obligated to refund ticket money?

 

[Triggaaar]

There was a doctor in China who knew about this early on and Chinese authorities did their best to keep him quiet. He died from the virus.

Do you have proof of that?

 

[pb21]

Globally you are (but we can't count globally according to Trig).

In the UK you definitely currently are (but we can't count that according to Trig either because the numbers of people with covid-19 in the UK are currently "too low", ironically)

Perhaps in the next six to twelve weeks that may not be true but you don't know that any better than I do.

The last pandemic panic in the UK was swine flu. The worst case prediction was that 65,000 people would die from it in the UK. Fewer than 1000 in the UK actually did.

If you got 1,000 55 year old people to go for a drive, how many would you expect to crash and die as a result?

If you gave 1,000 55 year old people Covid-19, how many would you expect to die as a result?

 

[Bozza]

Nobody has said flu is like a cold. Flu kills millions every year, which is why a vaccine is made every year of the latest strains known to scientists.

Is Covid-19 a variant of flu?

Utterly mad panic going on right now. It's a ****ing COLD FFS.

Let it spread a bit, develop some herd immunity, watch it disappear in the summer and have a vaccine ready for the next winter flu season. People are acting like old people with respiritory problems aren't one step from death anyway.

What because 15 people in the UK have a new type of cold? Ok then.

 

[Giraffe]

Extremely sinister...…..


Just out of interest does anyone know if we do play behind closed doors are the club obligated to refund ticket money?

It would be extremely odd if they weren’t.

 

[Insel affe]

Do you have proof of that?

https://www.theguardian.com/global-...rus-as-authorities-start-to-round-up-patients


Liu Zhiming one of Wuhan’s most senior doctors has died after contracting the coronavirus as authorities began a sweeping campaign inside the city to seek out patients infected with the virus.

Or

Li Wenliang: Coronavirus kills Chinese whistleblower doctor

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51403795

 

[dazzer6666]

Is Covid-19 a variant of flu?

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/hea...ronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu

 

[Bold Seagull]

Is Covid-19 a variant of flu?

Just not a profitable one as no one predicted someone catching it violating some pangolins...

 

[Guinness Boy]

If you got 1,000 55 year old people to go for a drive, how many would you expect to crash and die as a result?

If you gave 1,000 55 year old people Covid-19, how many would you expect to die as a result?

No idea and neither do you.

However, you seem to be focussing on mortality rate per people who have actually caught the virus. The whole concept of being more likely to die in a motoring accident is because many more of us will drive a car this year than catch covid-19. In terms of actual numbers, as stated yesterday, more people die in cars every day than have died in the total outbreak thus far. If you think it's likely that the total number of infections will equal exactly the total number of people in the world eligable to drive then your example would make sense. Currently it doesn't.

 

[Triggaaar]

https://www.theguardian.com/global-...rus-as-authorities-start-to-round-up-patients


Liu Zhiming one of Wuhan’s most senior doctors has died after contracting the coronavirus as authorities began a sweeping campaign inside the city to seek out patients infected with the virus.

Or

Li Wenliang: Coronavirus kills Chinese whistleblower doctor

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51403795

The Guardian and BBC are simply reporting the information given out by the Chinese authorities. Sorry, but that's not really proof.

 

[pearl]

Probably already been posted:
How did Dean Koontz know about the Coronavirus 39 years ago? How did he know that it would be created in Wuhan, the place in China where it originated from? It would appear that our friend Covid-19 was created in a lab in China and has been unleashed on the world. There was a doctor in China who knew about this early on and Chinese authorities did their best to keep him quiet. He died from the virus. Is the Coronavirus China's solution to the over population of their country and the planet??

Are these pages from the same book??

 

[vegster]

If you got 1,000 55 year old people to go for a drive, how many would you expect to crash and die as a result?

If you gave 1,000 55 year old people Covid-19, how many would you expect to die as a result?

This, then bump that figure up to 1,000,000 55 year olds go for a drive and 1,000,000 contract Covid-19 in a very short time frame and you need to hospitalise just 5% of those ?

Some awfully big numbers possibly.