Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[Raphael Meade]

I hope so.

Just in cast they've opened a book on the chances https://betting.betfair.com/horse-r...-market-amid-coronavirus-fears-260220-51.html

Olympics look in serious doubt too, report saying they could make the call as late as May if they need to. Japan has closed all schools though the end of March

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

So Trump has put Mike Pence, a creationist who doesn't have a clue about science, in charge of his Covid 19 response team.

Well that's a huge relief

It could well be. At 73 years of age, Donald Trump is squarely in the 'at-risk' category

 

[DumLum]

That sounds like a Facebook “fact”. You don’t get it by just by being near someone. You have to touch something they have touched (and then touch your mouth/nose/eyes) or they cough or sneeze at you.

I don't really do news on facebook or conspiracy theories sites but I have also read about the 35 people stat,I don't remember if it was over 5 seconds though. I have also heard that you can catch it from just being within 2 metres of somebody breathing because I thought the same as you originally.

Do people comparing the figures to road deaths not understand what contagious means? Wait until the 2-7 year olds get it, those dirty little wotsits are a completely different level of superspreader. The guy on the ski trip was metophorically armed with a pea-shooter compared to a kid in Year one who would be carrying a machine gun.

 

[DumLum]

How long does the test take? Apparently only 6 places in the whole of the US can test for Covid-19, it's quite good if we've got 100 sites.

I don't know how long it takes. Brighton and Hove was listed as one of the areas testing though.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51641243

 

[bhafc99]

It could well be. At 73 years of age, Donald Trump is squarely in the 'at-risk' category

Finally, some good news on Coronavirus.




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[Hugo Rune]

It's not an overreaction just because the death rate appears relatively low.

If this thing infects most people, having up to a 4% chance of death (while hospital capacity remains managable) is not "fine". If you are old then you can up that chance of death. If hospitals get overwhelmed, you can up it some more. They are already talking about rationing care, chosing who to try to save and who to let die in their homes. Denial of care won't be limited to those with the virus but also other seriously ill patients.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...sive-care-flu-wise-men-protocol-a9361916.html

This is not a similar situation to regular flu, that comparison is helpful only for giving people a reassuring but false sense of security.

I am not saying people should panic. I'm saying people shouldn't brush this off as unjustified hype.

It isn't.

Such an informed post although people should be panicking! Panicking a lot!

The rubbish below is filling up social media and it’s making me irate with the biggest health crisis since the bubonic plague about to strike! It’s as if the world has gone mad and stopped reading the likes of the Sun and Argus! Why are we letting ANYONE into the Country at all! Send them all to bloody Italy!


“Coronavirus Vs the Common Flu - findings per year.

If anyone wants to know about viruses and diseases ask a Doctor...

Infections

COVID-19: Approximately 81,322 cases worldwide; 59 cases in the U.S. as of Feb. 26, 2020.

Flu: Estimated 1 billion cases worldwide; 9.3 million to 45 million cases in the U.S. per year.

Deaths

COVID-19: Approximately 2,770 deaths reported worldwide; 0 deaths in the U.S., as of Feb. 26, 2020.

Flu: 291,000 to 646,000 deaths worldwide; 12,000 to 61,000 deaths in the U.S. per year.

Protect the old, the very young and other vulnerable people as you would from Influenza, with common hygenie, rest and fluids.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/hea...onavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu”

Although the above is based on factual statistics, we should not take any notice of it when the popular media are our only source of guidance and truth. The suggestion that it’s just the same as influenza, although backed up by scientific fact, is an insult to our intelligence!

We proved the educated classes wrong with Brexit (we’ve not all lost our jobs and homes, we’re still alive and tweeting) and now we’re going to prove those bloody academics wrong with Coronavirus by making sure that everyone is ready for the impending medical disaster! For Christ’s sake don’t ask the opinion of a doctor or medical professional about Coronavirus, stick to Journos and politicians.

We are all going to die!

 

[Soylent Blue]

So Trump has put Mike Pence, a creationist who doesn't have a clue about science, in charge of his Covid 19 response team.

Well that's a huge relief

He's running a response team not doing medical research what is the problem?

 

[Driver8]

He's running a response team not doing medical research what is the problem?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www..../21155286/mike-pence-coronavirus-response-hiv

 

[A1X]

So Trump has put Mike Pence, a creationist who doesn't have a clue about science, in charge of his Covid 19 response team.

Well that's a huge relief

Here he is displaying his scientific brain in another sphere

 

[Raphael Meade]

He's running a response team not doing medical research what is the problem?

As governor of Indiana he fomented an HIV epidemic because he insisted on trying to pray about it rather than act, and went against all public health advice leading to the outbreak;

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mike-pence-indiana-hiv_n_57f53b9be4b002a7312022ef

He's also a religious fundamentalist who seems to long for the 'rapture' which is a little unsettling when in charge of the virus response for a country that is completely unprepared and has had it's pandemic response team cut by his own administration.

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

As governor of Indiana he fomented an HIV epidemic because he insisted on trying to pray about it rather than act, and went against all public health advice leading to the outbreak;

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mike-pence-indiana-hiv_n_57f53b9be4b002a7312022ef

He's also a religious fundamentalist who seems to long for the 'rapture' which is a little unsettling when in charge of the virus response for a country that is completely unprepared and has had it's pandemic response team cut by his own administration.

Plus he looks genuinely creepy / scary with soulless eyes - like an extra on a Hammer horror film

 

[Triggaaar]

I don't really do news on facebook or conspiracy theories sites but I have also read about the 35 people stat,I don't remember if it was over 5 seconds though. I have also heard that you can catch it from just being within 2 metres of somebody breathing because I thought the same as you originally.

It doesn't make sense for 35 people to be catching it over a few seconds, or we'd all have it by now. We've had a dozen people come to the UK with it, but they seem to have passed it on to a total of about 0 people in the UK. It's not possible for it to be spreading to 35 people in a short space of time.

Do people comparing the figures to road deaths not understand what contagious means? Wait until the 2-7 year olds get it, those dirty little wotsits are a completely different level of superspreader.

Wait until they get it? 80,000 people (probably a lot more) have contracted the virus. Obviously 2-7-year-olds have already had it, and had a go at spreading it.

 

[Daddies_Sauce]

4 days old now and China specific but: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/ - 0-9 years old no fatalities (does not mean they cannot spread), need to find an updated global report.

 

[dingodan]

Such an informed post although people should be panicking! Panicking a lot!

The rubbish below is filling up social media and it’s making me irate with the biggest health crisis since the bubonic plague about to strike! It’s as if the world has gone mad and stopped reading the likes of the Sun and Argus! Why are we letting ANYONE into the Country at all! Send them all to bloody Italy!


“Coronavirus Vs the Common Flu - findings per year.

If anyone wants to know about viruses and diseases ask a Doctor...

Infections

COVID-19: Approximately 81,322 cases worldwide; 59 cases in the U.S. as of Feb. 26, 2020.

Flu: Estimated 1 billion cases worldwide; 9.3 million to 45 million cases in the U.S. per year.

Deaths

COVID-19: Approximately 2,770 deaths reported worldwide; 0 deaths in the U.S., as of Feb. 26, 2020.

Flu: 291,000 to 646,000 deaths worldwide; 12,000 to 61,000 deaths in the U.S. per year.

Protect the old, the very young and other vulnerable people as you would from Influenza, with common hygenie, rest and fluids.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/hea...onavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu”

Although the above is based on factual statistics, we should not take any notice of it when the popular media are our only source of guidance and truth. The suggestion that it’s just the same as influenza, although backed up by scientific fact, is an insult to our intelligence!

We proved the educated classes wrong with Brexit (we’ve not all lost our jobs and homes, we’re still alive and tweeting) and now we’re going to prove those bloody academics wrong with Coronavirus by making sure that everyone is ready for the impending medical disaster! For Christ’s sake don’t ask the opinion of a doctor or medical professional about Coronavirus, stick to Journos and politicians.

We are all going to die!

 

[dingodan]

Not sure why people find seasonal flu rates reassuring.

Flu: Estimated 1 billion cases worldwide.

Flu: 291,000 to 646,000 deaths worldwide.

That's with:

Targeted vaccinations
Targeted antiviral medication
Some learned immunity
Shorter incubation period
Lower contagion rate
Lower mortality rate

 

[Algernon]

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3052775/coronavirus-dog-hong-kong-covid-19-patient-tests

"The pet dog of a Hong Kong Covid-19 patient has tested “weak positive” for the new coronavirus, it was revealed by the government on Friday."

Lock up your pets.
Possibly.

 

[Soylent Blue]

As governor of Indiana he fomented an HIV epidemic because he insisted on trying to pray about it rather than act, and went against all public health advice leading to the outbreak;

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mike-pence-indiana-hiv_n_57f53b9be4b002a7312022ef

He's also a religious fundamentalist who seems to long for the 'rapture' which is a little unsettling when in charge of the virus response for a country that is completely unprepared and has had it's pandemic response team cut by his own administration.

How did he "forment an HIV epidemic? What are you talking about? Got a less extreme source and then explain why this is a management issue for a virus?

 

[Poojah]

Thus far, I can’t say I’ve really bought into or worried about the hysteria. I’m not massively concerned about the chances of contracting this virus, or what would happen if I did. I’m possibly slightly more concerned about the prospect for my elderly parents, even if at this stage I still consider the chances of any given individual in the UK contracting it relatively low.

What I do find concerning is the impact it’s already having on the fundamentals of everyday life. The markets diving, with talk of businesses shutting down. Schools closing. Sporting events cancelled, or being played behind closed doors. Assuming we’re at the thin end the wedge, and that this virus doesn’t have some massive aversion to summer climates (early reports would suggest it does not), it’s hard to see the likes of the Euros or Olympics going ahead without major disruption.

It’s not really occurred to me until now but, hysteria or not, this could be a rough few months ahead for us all.

 

[Raphael Meade]

How did he "forment an HIV epidemic? What are you talking about? Got a less extreme source and then explain why this is a management issue for a virus?

Lol not sure the Huffington Post is an 'extreme source' but ok, it's a very widely reported event while he was governor if you would like to google for yourself

 

[dangull]

The population of the world is probably too many as of today, so diseases like this might actually be a good thing in the long run in controlling the population. Nature trying to redress the balance.