Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[LamieRobertson]

Well the Tesco s have been explained before ..u didn’t mention if they are unwell?

At least your child won’t be missing too much education I guess

Goodness knows why predictive text did this but sentence should have started

“The reasons have been explained before…

 

[nicko31]

Managed to avoid Covid all this time, but got a text from the little ones school this morning not to bring them in and isolate until the 23rd July, now my partner has tested positive on a lateral flow test. No freedom day for us and the little one won't be back to school until September! It seems mad to relax now when this new variant is so infectious...

Just feels all wrong, a reckless irresponsible car crash in the making

Things starting to going bad in NE England, cases number close to January numbers..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57836137

Dr Catherine Monaghan, a consultant in respiratory medicine at the University Hospital of North Tees, has worked all through the pandemic's first and second waves and now is facing up to the bleak reality of a third Covid surge.

"We are absolutely gutted - it's really hard - I know the whole country wants this to be over - but the reality is that's not what is happening in the hospital," she said.

"People are still critically unwell with it - I cannot quite believe we're back at this stage again - it's really worrying."

 

[studio150]

48,553 up 50% in a week, and all this before freedom day on Monday.

Forget the green list for your holidays the UK will be on the red list of every other country in the world.

 

[nicko31]

48,553 up 50% in a week, and all this before freedom day on Monday.

Forget the green list for your holidays the UK will be on the red list of every other country in the world.

Makes a mockery of the UK put the Balearic islands on our Amber list, bar Indonesia we now have the highest daily cases in the entire world

 

[darkwolf666]

You're almost certainly right.

We're so far ahead of almost every country where we are in a position where this is no longer a concern to us, but it would be a huge concern to them.

I will let my wife and her buddies at chemo tomorrow know there is nothing to worry about / you insensitive ****wit!




Sorry, I was supposed to stay away, but a kind soul pointed this post out to me and I couldn't ignore it without comment..

Breathes and leaves!

 

[crodonilson]

Hospitalisations now up nearly 50% now weekly and deaths similarly and this is before Mondays loosening of remaining restrictions, absolute madness. I strongly suspect we will be back in some form of lockdown by end of October once flu and other respiratory illnesses start circulating. The NHS simply will not be able to cope, it is already cancelling operations and procedures again and is under winter pressures in the middle of summer with worse to come.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Hospitalisations now up nearly 50% now weekly and deaths similarly and this is before Mondays loosening of remaining restrictions, absolute madness. I strongly suspect we will be back in some form of lockdown by end of October once flu and other respiratory illnesses start circulating. The NHS simply will not be able to cope, it is already cancelling operations and procedures again and is under winter pressures in the middle of summer with worse to come.

Flu is going to hit us hard partly because of the lockdowns, if the NHS cant cope after months of being able to get ready then its a disgrace.

 

[dsr-burnley]

Hospitalisations now up nearly 50% now weekly and deaths similarly and this is before Mondays loosening of remaining restrictions, absolute madness. I strongly suspect we will be back in some form of lockdown by end of October once flu and other respiratory illnesses start circulating. The NHS simply will not be able to cope, it is already cancelling operations and procedures again and is under winter pressures in the middle of summer with worse to come.

This is a problem, isn't it? Remember the song "If ever I should leave you", from Camelot? Lancelot couldn't leave Guenevere in spring, or in summer, or in autumn, or in winter, because he was too much in love with her.

It's the same here. We can't leave lockdown in summer because of the NHS. Or in autumn, because of flu. Or in winter, because the virus spreads too well. Or in Spring, because - well, there's bound to be a reason. And then when you add that we can't leave lockdown because flu is on the way as well, then in the words of the song "Never could I leave you - at all".

 

[Hugo Rune]

Hospitalisations now up nearly 50% now weekly and deaths similarly and this is before Mondays loosening of remaining restrictions, absolute madness. I strongly suspect we will be back in some form of lockdown by end of October once flu and other respiratory illnesses start circulating. The NHS simply will not be able to cope, it is already cancelling operations and procedures again and is under winter pressures in the middle of summer with worse to come.

They should have waited until the vaccine programme was a lot further forward.

Any one buying the Boris Bullshit of ‘if not now, when?’ should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.

When the Delta variant was allowed to easily seed in this Country, the road map should have been delayed.

The cut in death rates directly from covid is one thing but the cost of long-covid, organ damage and delay in operations due to the pressure on the NHS will cost thousands of lives. Awful awful governance once again in this pandemic.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Hospitalisations now up nearly 50% now weekly and deaths similarly and this is before Mondays loosening of remaining restrictions, absolute madness. I strongly suspect we will be back in some form of lockdown by end of October once flu and other respiratory illnesses start circulating. The NHS simply will not be able to cope, it is already cancelling operations and procedures again and is under winter pressures in the middle of summer with worse to come.

They should have waited until the vaccine programme was a lot further forward.

Any one buying the Boris Bullshit of ‘if not now, when?’ should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.

When the Delta variant was allowed to easily seed in this Country, the road map should have been delayed.

The cut in death rates directly from covid is one thing but the cost of long-covid, organ damage and delay in operations due to the pressure on the NHS will cost thousands of lives. Awful awful governance once again in this pandemic by the worst administration in living memory.

 

[e77]

Flu is going to hit us hard partly because of the lockdowns, if the NHS cant cope after months of being able to get ready then its a disgrace.

The NHS is a disgrace. Classy, real classy.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

The NHS is a disgrace. Classy, real classy.

Sure, I clearly meant the nurses and not those running it.

Do you think that the Government/Leaders have done well in increasing capacity then?

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

dupe

 

[loz]

The NHS is a disgrace. Classy, real classy.

I think they meant the management of the NHS TBF.

The NHS has had this warning for 7 or 8 months before the normal winter surge, it should be able to cope if it can’t questions should be asked.

As a left wing pinko liberal it pains me to say the NHS has to improve or be made to improve.

This is aimed at management as I know the Drs , nurses, porter’s ,cooks and shop floor staff work their socks off.

 

[dsr-burnley]

They should have waited until the vaccine programme was a lot further forward.

If we're waiting for the people who don't want to be vaccinated, then we could be waiting a long time.

 

[crodonilson]

They should have waited until the vaccine programme was a lot further forward.

Any one buying the Boris Bullshit of ‘if not now, when?’ should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.

When the Delta variant was allowed to easily seed in this Country, the road map should have been delayed.

The cut in death rates directly from covid is one thing but the cost of long-covid, organ damage and delay in operations due to the pressure on the NHS will cost thousands of lives. Awful awful governance once again in this pandemic by the worst administration in living memory.

You can say that again.

All of the roadmap out of lockdown was sensible and done so cautiously which was absolutely the right approach but the delta variant has fundamentally changed everything and it is to the governments eternal shame they have not adjusted to account for rapidly accelerating cases and a peak we just do not know how high or how rapidly we get there (or how quickly we come out of the other side because if we get up to 100,000 cases by mid/end August when schools and Universities go back in September cases will remain very high through Autumn).

 

[LamieRobertson]

I think they meant the management of the NHS TBF.

The NHS has had this warning for 7 or 8 months before the normal winter surge, it should be able to cope if it can’t questions should be asked.

As a left wing pinko liberal it pains me to say the NHS has to improve or be made to improve.

This is aimed at management as I know the Drs , nurses, porter’s ,cooks and shop floor staff work their socks off.

Exactly

 

[e77]

Sure, I clearly meant the nurses and not those running it.

Do you think that the Government/Leaders have done well in increasing capacity then?

Thanks for the clarification.

It sounds like equipment shortages (ventilators, PPE, etc.) have been sorted out but you can't magic trained Doctors and Nurses out the air, which has been caused by a decade of under investment and a lack of interest from people wanting to come from abroad post-Brexit.

The failures in our response to this disaster have been a long time in the making.

 

[beorhthelm]

I think they meant the management of the NHS TBF.

The NHS has had this warning for 7 or 8 months before the normal winter surge, it should be able to cope if it can’t questions should be asked.

As a left wing pinko liberal it pains me to say the NHS has to improve or be made to improve.

This is aimed at management as I know the Drs , nurses, porter’s ,cooks and shop floor staff work their socks off.

no is asking questions about why capacity or contingency is not being made for better management of winter upsurge. or even the current cases. ie, why a year do we still send covid patients to same hospitals as everything else? why are there dedicated covid treatment centres, separating general treatment? it not be easy, it will cost something, but there's £30bn+ gone on Covid response, not to mention the cost from running most the NHS at reduced capacity the past year.

 

[Driver8]

I see Oxford University are going to do a big trial for Ivermectin to see if it is useful as a therapy against Covid . They are trying to find either this drug or any other ones they can discover would be another tool against Covid . If the scientists can find something, that would mean as soon as someone gets tested positive instead of isolating and just hoping that after a week or so you do not get the inflammation to the body ,it could be the way out of Covid.

https://twitter.com/gidmk/status/1415764372362649601?s=21