Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[atomised]

It should be interesting tomorrow. I fully expect a complete lockdown for another 3 weeks

I think it's interesting how the 2 lots of 3 week lockdowns have basically equalled 7 weeks. First one due to end on the sunday or monday if I remember rightly with the second confirmed the following thursday. This one due to end tomorrow and extended to sunday for Boris' big sunday broadcast

 

[Machiavelli]

You think his participation in this was useful? He’s a scaremonger.

And you can surely see that he’s a hypocrite.

I'm not really interested in ad hominem arguments, which are your stock in trade.
I asked a quite simple question and, rather than answering it, you've just engaged in more ad hominem distraction (Cummings would be proud of you). So, let's try again:
what is the difference between modelling a scenario, and making a difference?

 

[Machiavelli]

I think it's interesting how the 2 lots of 3 week lockdowns have basically equalled 7 weeks. First one due to end on the sunday or monday if I remember rightly with the second confirmed the following thursday. This one due to end tomorrow and extended to sunday for Boris' big sunday broadcast

Yes, exactly, and this hasn't been widely covered.
FWIW, Johnson has just stated at PMQs that the announcement being made on Sunday will refer to relaxations introduced the following day.

 

[Napper]

Yes, exactly, and this hasn't been widely covered.
FWIW, Johnson has just stated at PMQs that the announcement being made on Sunday will refer to relaxations introduced the following day.

will be relating to work and getting back to work I expect. Can't see many changes socially unfortunately

 

[nicko31]

Nothing is happening tomorrow. Sunday maybe.

After Johnson swanned off for a 2 week break in February to sort our his personal life he needs to work weekends, so looking like Sunday

Or could be just be wanting to avoid the scrutiny of parliament?

 

[Titanic]

PMQ: Starmer's calm forensic questioning once again highly impressive

Maybe it is the circumstances... but wasn't it all a bit safe/predictable... and rather dull?

 

[Butch Willykins]

After Johnson swanned off for a 2 week break in February to sort our his personal life he needs to work weekends, so looking like Sunday

Or could be just be wanting to avoid the scrutiny of parliament?

If he makes an announcement hinting any relaxation in lock down on a Thursday before a sunny bank holiday weekend what will the result be?

Much more sensible to do it on a Sunday PM. But you knew that anyway.

 

[RossyG]

I'm not really interested in ad hominem arguments, which are your stock in trade.

Ironically that's an ad hominem. But it's not an ad hominem if I provide examples of Prof. Ferguson's mistakes, which I did. And telling us to lockdown and breaking his own rules is objectively hypocrisy.

(Cummings would be proud of you)

Another ad hominem.

what is the difference between modelling a scenario, and making a difference?

Making a difference to what?

 

[beorhthelm]

Maybe it is the circumstances... but wasn't it all a bit safe/predictable... and rather dull?

thats the norm outside PMQ and the odd contentious vote. partly related to the number of MPs present, they rile each other up. regular thursday afternoon business with questions to the health minister

 

[Jeff Minton's Corners]

I don't believe the G5 towers are causing this virus but it would be interesting to know why they felt it was so urgent to have a mass roll out of 5G during a very extreme lockdown period. Hasn't Brighton & Hove City Council had G5 banned because its not proven safe? Wasn't Wuhan the first place in China to start using 5G?

Really weird how there's been this urgent need for 5G during this virus pandemic where human health is a number 1 priority. Like I said, I don't think there's a link with the virus, but still, wtf is going on? What next? We're going to try nuclear testing to see how destructive it it whilst a lock down is on?

 

[Springal]

I don't believe the G5 towers are causing this virus but it would be interesting to know why they felt it was so urgent to have a mass roll out of 5G during a very extreme lockdown period. Hasn't Brighton & Hove City Council had G5 banned because its not proven safe? Wasn't Wuhan the first place in China to start using 5G?

Really weird how there's been this urgent need for 5G during this virus pandemic where human health is a number 1 priority. Like I said, I don't think there's a link with the virus, but still, wtf is going on? What next? We're going to try nuclear testing to see how destructive it it whilst a lock down is on?

Many of your points are factually incorrect. But how do you explain South Korea having had 5G roll out for a couple of years now - but a low death rate? Or even places with no 5G coverage - having experiencing COVID-19 and many deaths?

Why do you think 5G is dangerous compared to 4G? or 3G?

 

[Jeff Minton's Corners]

Many of your points are factually incorrect. But how do you explain South Korea having had 5G roll out for a couple of years now - but a low death rate? Or even places with no 5G coverage - having experiencing COVID-19 and many deaths?

Why do you think 5G is dangerous compared to 4G? or 3G?

I thought it was to do with the ghz of wave energy being put up to 60? Isn't it the output which is going to change? . Didn't Iran start testing 60ghz 5G somewhere near the end of last March?

Why has Brighton & HOve Council had 5G banned if by what you're saying proves there's nothing wrong with 5G and we shouldn't be concerned of its current rollout whilst we're fighting a deadly, economy crushing, life destroying, war potential virus which is killing hundreds in this city alone.

 

[beorhthelm]

I don't believe the G5 towers are causing this virus but it would be interesting to know why they felt it was so urgent to have a mass roll out of 5G during a very extreme lockdown period. Hasn't Brighton & Hove City Council had G5 banned because its not proven safe? Wasn't Wuhan the first place in China to start using 5G?

Really weird how there's been this urgent need for 5G during this virus pandemic where human health is a number 1 priority. Like I said, I don't think there's a link with the virus, but still, wtf is going on? What next? We're going to try nuclear testing to see how destructive it it whilst a lock down is on?

they have to get it done now quickly while people are clapping every Thursday to cover up the sounds from the testing.

 

[Titanic]

Coronavirus mutations: Scientists puzzle over impact

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52557955

Stories like this will not encourage a rush to relaxing the lockdown

"Researchers in the US and UK have identified hundreds of mutations to the virus which causes the disease Covid-19.

But none has yet established what this will mean for virus spread in the population and for how effective a vaccine might be.

Viruses mutate - it's what they do.

The question is: which of these mutations actually do anything to change the severity or infectiousness of the disease?

Preliminary research from the US has suggested one particular mutation - D614G - is becoming dominant and could make the disease more infectious, and perhaps more severe."

 

[Springal]

they have to get it done now quickly while people are clapping every Thursday to cover up the sounds from the testing.

Encouraging people to bang pots & pans also helps the mind control radiowaves to transmit further as they bounce off them

 

[Jeff Minton's Corners]

Encouraging people to bang pots & pans also helps the mind control radiowaves to transmit further as they bounce off them

Isn't one of the big dangers with 5g and 4g that they use the body as an antenna? If so, this could be extremely dangerous for people fighting epilepsy and might help me understand a few things which have been happening to me of recent.

 

[RossyG]

Coronavirus mutations: Scientists puzzle over impact

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52557955

Stories like this will not encourage a rush to relaxing the lockdown

"Researchers in the US and UK have identified hundreds of mutations to the virus which causes the disease Covid-19.

But none has yet established what this will mean for virus spread in the population and for how effective a vaccine might be.

Viruses mutate - it's what they do.

The question is: which of these mutations actually do anything to change the severity or infectiousness of the disease?

Preliminary research from the US has suggested one particular mutation - D614G - is becoming dominant and could make the disease more infectious, and perhaps more severe."

 

[Springal]

Isn't one of the big dangers with 5g and 4g that they use the body as an antenna? If so, this could be extremely dangerous for people fighting epilepsy and might help me understand a few things which have been happening to me of recent.

Doesn't ever frequency essentially use the body as an antenna? WiFi? TV / Radiowaves? 3G? 4G? 5G? The radio clock in your living room

 

[Jeff Minton's Corners]

Doesn't ever frequency essentially use the body as an antenna? WiFi? TV / Radiowaves? 3G? 4G? 5G? The radio clock in your living room

I'm no expert on this so do excuse me, but I thought what 5G will be able to do is pass information through your body?

 

[The Wizard]

Hospitals only

8th: 936
15th: 801
22nd: 791
29th: 610
Today: 449

England 331 (was 445 last week)
Scotland 84 (Scotland’s numbers are worryingly high)
Wales 21
NI 14