Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[Deleted member 22389]

Yep. Our neighbour had a friend visit yesterday and today. Albeit in the garden, but they were not even keeping their distance.

It's these people that will make it worse for everyone else.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

I kinda hope we do go into a higher level of lockdown - just for 7-10 days, really strangle the growth of this virus.

I do now. Today is a massive reminder that we are not even half way through the tunnel yet.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Gosh, you are grouchy today. He may not try to peddle it as it would be useful, and he only peddles bollocks - got it?

Actually, if we are going to be serious tauroursodeoxycholic acid (TUDCA) and ursodeoxycholic acid (UDCA), are sold as supplements for people without gallbaldders or who dont produce enough bile; they help to digest fats. I don't think they are sourced from bears here in the west though, like the Chinese do.

I guess there were too many assumptions in my light-hearted post.

Sorry. Yes.

You're a good boy.

I was being a grouchy twaat.

We are on the same page, as I should have presumed we were. Or was, if I'm to continue to explore new English usage as I promised someone yesterday.

 

[Weststander]

Spain and Italy with fewer new deaths than the UK

The scientists were right, ahead on the curve. Hopefully France and UK see the same soon.

As for the USA, I pray they do too, in spite of the wasted weeks.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Spain and Italy with fewer new deaths than the UK

The BBC has chose to show the Spain data as a separate graph as in 2 days the Spanish drop has been dramatic, but the Italy data are more persuasive as the drops have been making a pattern over a longer period. I want to see a few more days (7 will do) of sustained pattern then I'll be persuaded, and my persuasion will be that as [MENTION=38333]Swansman[/MENTION] has noted, allowing (deliberately or via gormlessness) some people to die by allowing some spread may allow the peak to be reached more quickly, allowing the decline to start sooner as fewer people are naive and unprotected by their antibodies.

 

[daveinplzen]

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'Zeman also recommends that the state border remains closed for tourists for one year'

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

It's these people that will make it worse for everyone else.

Yeah, worse for people like this in a friend's Facebook status. He is a paramedic from London.

 

[Shopes]

Yeah, worse for people like this in a friend's Facebook status. He is a paramedic from London.

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That is really heartbreaking.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Yeah, worse for people like this in a friend's Facebook status. He is a paramedic from London.

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That's so sad.

 

[RossyG]

Boris Johnson has had to go to hospital for some tests. Hope he’s ok.

 

[Poojah]

Boris Johnson has had to go to hospital for some tests. Hope he’s ok.

He’s looked increasingly unwell in his recent Twitter appearances, which have been reduced to text-based tweets the last couple of days. It had occurred to me that he may be seriously unwell - whether you’re the Primeminister or not you don’t tend to go to hospital unless you’re quite ill.

I don’t like Boris Johnson the politician (and I say that as a Tory) but I hope he gets through this and returns to lead our country through this crisis.

 

[Triggaaar]

The BBC has chose to show the Spain data as a separate graph as in 2 days the Spanish drop has been dramatic, but the Italy data are more persuasive as the drops have been making a pattern over a longer period. I want to see a few more days (7 will do) of sustained pattern then I'll be persuaded, and my persuasion will be that as [MENTION=38333]Swansman[/MENTION] has noted, allowing (deliberately or via gormlessness) some people to die by allowing some spread may allow the peak to be reached more quickly

I don't see it that way. There isn't a peak that's set in stone, that you want to get to quickly. The peaks in Italy and Spain have been reached because the countries are locked down, stopping the virus from spreading. If all restrictions are removed, the virus will spread again and they'll have another peak. Sweden, meanwhile, will keep heading towards their peak, unless people are social distancing enough through choice.

Of course if a large percentage of the populations have had the virus and are now immune, things will be different, but we've not yet had any evidence that's happened.

 

[Triggaaar]

Yeah, worse for people like this in a friend's Facebook status. He is a paramedic from London.

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You've got no hope of people staying home when leaders like Catherine Calderwood can't be ****ing bothered to follow her own advice.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

You've got no hope of people staying home when leaders like Catherine Calderwood can't be ****ing bothered to follow her own advice.

I know. I despair. The only hope is that enough of us actually care enough about our friends, families and neighbors to stay home and lessen the spread.

 

[Triggaaar]

I know. I despair.

At least she's had to resign, but I doubt she's the only one in such a position who thinks the rules are only for us plebs.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

A tiger has tested positive at New York Zoo, so the virus has species hopped again.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I don't see it that way. There isn't a peak that's set in stone, that you want to get to quickly. The peaks in Italy and Spain have been reached because the countries are locked down, stopping the virus from spreading. If all restrictions are removed, the virus will spread again and they'll have another peak. Sweden, meanwhile, will keep heading towards their peak, unless people are social distancing enough through choice.

Of course if a large percentage of the populations have had the virus and are now immune, things will be different, but we've not yet had any evidence that's happened.

On a point of order, you're correct.

Can't think of any viral infection where, after you've had it you're not immune, though.

Till it mutates again, of course. Which COV types do. Every year.

So without quick vaccine generation, it will be 'see you all in lockdown, again, next year'.

 

[Bry Nylon]

So without quick vaccine generation, it will be 'see you all in lockdown, again, next year'.

Or 'not see you', as the case may be.

I'll wave to you at 8pm on Thursdays instead.

 

[Triggaaar]

Can't think of any viral infection where, after you've had it you're not immune, though.

I wasn't suggesting this would be any different, I'm just concerned there's still a large percentage of us who haven't had it, so the only way to avoid another peak would be to keep social distancing measures going for a long time yet.

 

[rogersix]

I wasn't suggesting this would be any different, I'm just concerned there's still a large percentage of us who haven't had it, so the only way to avoid another peak would be to keep social distancing measures going for a long time yet.

do we not have to endure another peak (like singapore) as we surely can't lock down until a vaccine is poroduced?