Mailm On Sunday jack-booting the World Cup bid.

[drew]

However, as he has gone, shouldn't Fifa speak to him to see on what basis he considered these allegations were true. That is, is there any evidence.

 

[cunning fergus]

However, as he has gone, shouldn't Fifa speak to him to see on what basis he considered these allegations were true. That is, is there any evidence.

Surely if he was able to substantiate his freely expressed opinions then he would have done, as he hasn't and resigned one can only assume he is a f***ing idiot who cannot be trusted. No more evidence is required.

Baron Treisman's past gives us the best indication into the kind of untrustworthy man he is when he sold out on his firmly held communist views to ultimately accept a peerage in the House of Lords and other trinkets of power like his role as FA Chairman.

Of course he's not alone in that regard in the Labour Party.....many a radical socialist has experienced a capitalist epiphany when they have got their hands on the levers of power.

 

[Sheebo]

Why report this Lord Triesman story, it goes completely against FIFA laws.
I can imagine the journo salivating at the chance of being the man to bring our bid down.
Top work fella, why can't you just leave well alone.

FA chief Lord Triesman: Spain in bid to bribe World Cup referees | Mail Online

Completely my thoughts - Why can't the f'ing papers get behind Enlish football for once = morons

 

[SNOOBS]

Yesterday when the article went up in one of the text images it showed Tries number, instead of his name Now been changed but I noted it down..
07787367986

 

[ChapManiA]

I think it's harsh that Lord Triesman is getting the blame by some people on NSC.

O.K, so he was naughty to have had an affair and to still see the woman now and again. The Mail on Sunday could have just exposed that bit, but no, they had to include details that would massively damage England's chances of hosting the World Cup.

If your in the pub with mates, I'm sure you all say things that you'd not want broadcast nationally for fear of the consequences. You don't expect your every word to be taped.

I doubt very much if that the journalist Dan Newling is a football fan.

It's totally sickening that one story in a newspaper can screw up something in the national interest.

Additionally, I don't see why Lord Triesman had to resign from the F.A
It was a comment made in private, it's not like he said it in an interview of which he knew was going to be released into the public domain.

 

[drew]

Surely if he was able to substantiate his freely expressed opinions then he would have done, as he hasn't and resigned one can only assume he is a f***ing idiot who cannot be trusted. No more evidence is required.

Baron Treisman's past gives us the best indication into the kind of untrustworthy man he is when he sold out on his firmly held communist views to ultimately accept a peerage in the House of Lords and other trinkets of power like his role as FA Chairman.

Of course he's not alone in that regard in the Labour Party.....many a radical socialist has experienced a capitalist epiphany when they have got their hands on the levers of power.

A tory rag brings down a labour peer and with it possibly our last chance in this generation to bring the world cup here and you seem to rejoice in it. Marvellous. Even if there is hearsay evidence then Fifa should at least go through the motions of investigating. I take it you are aware that it is a spaniard in charge of selecting the referees for the games?

 

[HseagullsH]

Yesterday when the article went up in one of the text images it showed Tries number, instead of his name Now been changed but I noted it down..
07787367986

Just gave it a call and I was forwarded to the T Mobile voice mail service

 

[seagullsoverlincoln]

i think Triesman and the Mail probably deserve each other-a shabby disgraceful individual
reported in a shabby and disgraceful rag.

its just a shame that every English football fan has to suffer because of them

 

[cunning fergus]

A tory rag brings down a labour peer and with it possibly our last chance in this generation to bring the world cup here and you seem to rejoice in it. Marvellous. Even if there is hearsay evidence then Fifa should at least go through the motions of investigating. I take it you are aware that it is a spaniard in charge of selecting the referees for the games?

I said in an earlier post it was sad that the bid would be affected so not sure how you have interpreted 'joy' from any of my comments. If there was a scintilla of fact about these comments from Lord Trieisman would have used them to defend himself. He didn't, ergo he's a f***ing idiot for expressing the opinions that he did.

By having an affair with a junior member of his staff he was the creator of his own demise. Sure, this woman has not covered herself in glory but then money talks and she obviously knew that with a flash of a bra strap and a flicker of the hair so does Lord Treisman.

If he had not formed such an inappropriate relationship with her then the Mail would have no story and the bid would still be back on. You may not like the Mail but restricting press freedom is not the answer either. If it had been a tory I doubt the Mirror would have held back.

 

[Easy 10]

I just love the way the Mail are now excitedly reporting on our "crisis-hit World Cup bid", and Lord Coe coming in to try to help with the damage-limitation exercise.

Crisis and damage to the bid caused EXCLUSIVELY by the Mail in wiring up some slapper to go and try and get some tittle-tattle or dirt, which has now been gleefully siezed on and reported by them. Triesman has been a daft old fool, but the Mail is a piece of shit for doing this.

There's no logical reason why we shouldn't be awarded the 2018 tournament. If we don't get it, then we'll know who to thank.

 

[Questions]

If you didn`t already have a reason for not buying or reading that shitty newspaper then this is it.

 

[Stat Brother]

Does anyone know what else Triesman said?
The only other bit I've heard is Capello's handling of Terry, which was kind of what we knew anyway. Basically it was all done on Capello's terms.

I can't help thinking bar 1 potentially glib throw-away line, they had nothing.
The whole thing is so shitty.

 

[Hannibal smith]

It's one thing papers catching JT hanging out the back of some dippy tart who happens to be his team mates ex missus. It's quite another that a UK paper is trying to de-rail the World Cup bid. If it was called Das Heute Mail I could understand it a bit more. By all means expose the affair but to print his comments is pretty low. Oldest trick in the book and he fell for it.

The irony for me is that one day Triesman's comments will probably prove to be spot on. In a multi billion pound industry, refs get paid next to nothing. Someone somewhere is bound to be corrupt and they will be coming to a World cup near you soon.

 

[Tooting Gull]

As a journalist myself, I would normally be 100 per cent in favour of the paper, and 100 per cent of the view that Triesman only has himself to blame. However in this case, I'm not so sure the MoS have done the right thing.

We are genuinely looking at a situation where one silly cow with a beef, or older man fixation, whatever, could easily cost many of us the only chance in our lifetime of seeing a World Cup on these shores. That is a massive price to pay for publishing this story.

Even before Triesman had his say, my wife couldn't believe what this woman had done. Cerrtainly doesn't portray her in a very good light. Triesman has been/is a vain, pompous idiot flattered by a bit of attention from a younger woman - and was clearly showing off, talking utter bollocks. But we've probably all done that at some stage.

Even on a more cynical take, imagine the leverage you would have had with Triesman as the MoS if after telling him what you had, you promised not to run it in exchange for a few decent FA scoops over the next few years. That is the way papers operate, like it or not. And we'd have kept our World Cup chances well intact.

 

[Stat Brother]

Even on a more cynical take, imagine the leverage you would have had with Triesman as the MoS if after telling him what you had, you promised not to run it in exchange for a few decent FA scoops over the next few years. That is the way papers operate, like it or not. And we'd have kept our World Cup chances well intact.

And the MoS would be shifting shed loads of papers in 10 years time.

I just can't get my head round it.
All very well saying if they didn't print it, someone else would have, I'm not so sure, as there's a hell of a lot at stake for just one twatty comment.

Would Madrid on Sunday or The Daily Moscow have printed such a lightweight story?

 

[Spiros]

On this occasion it's the Mail on Sunday, but in general our press seem to delight in dredging up some story or other approaching major sporting events - especially football ones - which will only harm our chances of success. Why? They always come out with some crap about 'in the national interest' but is it REALLY in the national interest to try and trash our chances of doing well at the world cup or getting the 2018 gig here? No, no it isn't. It's only in the interest of selling more copies of their rag.

 

[Tooting Gull]

On this occasion it's the Mail on Sunday, but in general our press seem to delight in dredging up some story or other approaching major sporting events - especially football ones - which will only harm our chances of success. Why? They always come out with some crap about 'in the national interest' but is it REALLY in the national interest to try and trash our chances of doing well at the world cup or getting the 2018 gig here? No, no it isn't. It's only in the interest of selling more copies of their rag.

There is certainly a debate to be had about the ethics and national interest of what has happened over the decision to publish. Either way, I have no sympathy for Triesman. You don't want the chairman of the FA and head of the 2018 bid going around saying other countries or bidders are corrupt. It's just f*****g stupid, especially on the phone to an ex-employee or colleague. I always thought he was a bit of a weasel, yet another one of Tony's cronies coming to grief.

 

[Dandyman]

Apparently World Cups bids killed Lady Diana and give you cancer. Hurrah for the MoS standing up to this insidious PC foreign filth.

 

[cunning fergus]

But it was a private conversation, which he may not even have know was being recorded (am I right there).
Yes the bloke was wrong, but was he set up?, would he have been set up (if he was) if our press, and therefore us, wasn't so blood thirsty?

The point I'm getting at is:-
Did anybody think actually this will damage our WC bid, which would be great for the country, our football, our finances, and our paper sales.

Or was it just a case of blimey this one little bit of a private conversation is a bit juicy lets publish that.

Surely its neither. At the end of the day our bid will suceed or fail as a consequence of our facilities and logistics......not forgetting the small issue of commercial arrangments for delivering a profit for FIFA. No doubt there will be some on the decision team who wouldn't want the England to suceed anyway, but for the objective majority of capitalists Treisman's epic buffonery will make not one jot of difference to them.

Re your second point I would argue that it was more a point of - is this stupid prick actually the Chairman of the FA? The Mail must have ruminated on the delicious irony that Treisman sits at the top of an organisation that regularly hauls managers and players over the coals for bringing the game into disrepute; yet there he is large as life making allegations of corruption and spilling his guts on confidential internal FA matters to a ex-junior member of staff he used to f***.

No doubt they should have held the front page and said "No this is exactly the kind of man we need in charge of our national game, he must be protected from any gossip.........its our national duty!"

Yeah right.

 

[cannedheat]

I have given this a lot of thought and it ferking hurt, I don't give a shit about some poxy useless labour ponced up titled curnt, or the mail on anyday of the week, or our world cup bid.

And Oh my god or allah, or whatever there name is we have C