Lynch to Forest then...

[The Large One]

The Gaffer Is Right. You're Nothing But A Big Fat Bully. You Accused Sir Albion Of Not Supporting The Club Just Because He Disagreed With You, You Annoying Porky Shopkeeper.

Wrong. Again.

You're good at that, aren't you?

Oh, and it's former shopkeeper. You're a bit behind the times.

 

[vulture]

The Gaffer Is Right. You're Nothing But A Big Fat Bully. You Accused Sir Albion Of Not Supporting The Club Just Because He Disagreed With You, You Annoying Porky Shopkeeper.

the legend returns

 

[Icy Gull]

Good chance his new manager will get the sack soon so he may be back here sooner than he expected

 

[Elder for England]

The Gaffer Is Right. You're Nothing But A Big Fat Bully. You Accused Sir Albion Of Not Supporting The Club Just Because He Disagreed With You, You Annoying Porky Shopkeeper.

As far as I can see he hasn't bullied anyone, just making his point that others don't agree with.
With regards to accusing him of not being a supporter, does he not live in Reading?

 

[SeagullRic]

Putting to one side for a moment Joel Lynch's attitude, he is a better player than Hawkins, so should have started the Season as a first choice centre back. Had he done so, he would not have handed in a transfer request, would still be happily at the club and we may well be in a better position ourselves

 

[The Large One]

Putting to one side for a moment Joel Lynch's attitude, he is a better player than Hawkins, so should have started the Season as a first choice centre back. Had he done so, he would not have handed in a transfer request, would still be happily at the club and we may well be in a better position ourselves

Is that fact or opinion?

Whatever, Micky Adams disagrees.

 

[Silent Bob]

As far as I can see he hasn't bullied anyone, just making his point that others don't agree with.
With regards to accusing him of not being a supporter, does he not live in Reading?

What does where he lives have to do with it?

 

[SeagullRic]

Is that fact or opinion?

Whatever, Micky Adams disagrees.

Sorry, should have stated that it was just my opinion. Who do you think is the better player?

 

[Skaville]

Putting to one side for a moment Joel Lynch's attitude, he is a better player than Hawkins, so should have started the Season as a first choice centre back. Had he done so, he would not have handed in a transfer request, would still be happily at the club and we may well be in a better position ourselves

Except he was injured at the beginning of the season.

Big loss though. Big, big loss. We'll end up getting peanuts for one of our biggest talents. Another negative for Mr Adams. Come on Mickey, sort it out. We're going backwards.

 

[Elder for England]

What does where he lives have to do with it?

Well depending on how long he's lived there I don't think you can have much of an opinion on certain matters.

 

[Elder for England]

Putting to one side for a moment Joel Lynch's attitude, he is a better player than Hawkins, so should have started the Season as a first choice centre back. Had he done so, he would not have handed in a transfer request, would still be happily at the club and we may well be in a better position ourselves

And why do you think Lynch is a better player than Hawkins?

 

[SeagullRic]

Except he was injured at the beginning of the season.

Big loss though. Big, big loss. We'll end up getting peanuts for one of our biggest talents. Another negative for Mr Adams. Come on Mickey, sort it out. We're going backwards.

Shit, forgot about that. Should have kept his place for the Scunny game when Hawkins was atrocious.

 

[Zebedee]

Well done Mickey.

Well done? Adams is an idiot for letting him go.

 

[Silent Bob]

Well depending on how long he's lived there I don't think you can have much of an opinion on certain matters.

Doesn't mean you're not a fan.

 

[Elder for England]

Well done? Adams is an idiot for letting him go.

:thud:

10 pages of discussion and then this.

 

[Mr Blunt]

Putting to one side for a moment Joel Lynch's attitude, he is a better player than Hawkins, so should have started the Season as a first choice centre back. Had he done so, he would not have handed in a transfer request, would still be happily at the club and we may well be in a better position ourselves

Hawkins has been brilliant for us this season , he was very good at all the away games for us and the two draws at home we have had. I cant defend him in the two losses we have had this season as the whole team did not perform.

He obviosly did not want to fight for his place, throw his toys out the pram.I think Lynch 's ego was hurt as he feels he should be in the team and wanted out.

 

[SeagullRic]

And why do you think Lynch is a better player than Hawkins?

Quicker, can actually pass a ball, good vision. I'm not saying Hawkins is bad, just that Lynch is (in my opinion anyway) better.

 

[Skaville]

And why do you think Lynch is a better player than Hawkins?

Is he not entitled to an opinion? I happen to agree with him. He's quicker, his distribution is better. The main area that Joel needs to develop in his concentration and occaisionally, his decsion making. This will only improve with games. The other issue is that Lynch has time on his side whilst Hawkins is the wrong side of thirty and has a pretty poor record injury wise (even when compared to Joel Lynch).

 

[Elder for England]

Doesn't mean you're not a fan.

I think you're a fan to certain extent, but if you don't regularly attend games you can't really have the knowledge to form a valid opinion.

 

[The Large One]

Sorry, should have stated that it was just my opinion. Who do you think is the better player?

Both have their qualities, both have their downsides.

Hawkins is solid, robust, strong in the air, reliable.
Lynch is quick, alert, good in the air and comfortable on the ball.

Both are prone to f***-ups, sometimes expensive. What's fairly clear is that they are different types of defenders.

'Better' is a highly flexible adjective.

I'm not trying to evade the question, it's not one that can have a strightforward answer, but you appear to be making out that Lynch should have been there, and that his transfer request was justified, purely because he thinks he's better.

Whether that's true or not, for me, it's not justification on its own to hand in that request. Some might argue it shows ambition, I would argue it shows impatience. What it does mean is that Lynch now has a record of handing in requests if he is not picked. That sort of thing can backfire on you.