Luton Rabia School 'undermining British values' in treatment of girls

[Camicus]

A lot don't even think of themselves as British. Its always Pakistani first. Fair enough some say after all there nothing more English than an Englishman abroad. But there is ZERO integration when it can be avoided. Muslim business deals with muslim business and employs Bradfordians as a last resort. Enclaves that are almost impossible for white people to live in. All you will ever be is an infidel. You only have to look at our Schools Councils and local MP to see corruption of the system. Women get treated like second class citizens my boss gets ignored by Muslims who work in our dept because she is female she dosnt put up with it but the attitude is the same.

 

[Soulman]

A lot don't even think of themselves as British. Its always Pakistani first. Fair enough some say after all there nothing more English than an Englishman abroad. But there is ZERO integration when it can be avoided. Muslim business deals with muslim business and employs Bradfordians as a last resort. Enclaves that are almost impossible for white people to live in. All you will ever be is an infidel. You only have to look at our Schools Councils and local MP to see corruption of the system. Women get treated like second class citizens my boss gets ignored by Muslims who work in our dept because she is female she dosnt put up with it but the attitude is the same.

Good post, i believe you live in Bradford.

 

[BadFish]

there is no problem with that in the slightest,i wonder out of all the people you have mentioned though how many try to impose their religious values on other Australians through patrols on the streets.How many have sought to sneak their hard line religious thinking into Australian schools.
I would imagine the answer is none.I wish i could say the same was true in the UK.

I look forward to the day when this sort of thinking and the mindset that empowers people to spout this garbage is firmly in the dustbin,i wont be holding my breath though

The confusion lies in these threads that pop up regularly posting the lastest "example" of extremist Islam being drip dripped into Western culture. There are of course examples of this and their are sections of Islam that would like this to happen (your videos are probably perfectly good examples (I will watch them later when my house is quieter)). The problem is that every incident or dispute involving Muslims is plastered over these message boards as proof that Islam is not a 'Religion of peace" or that "They are trying to take over" or "The Koran preaches violence" or "They want special treatment". There is no discernment or dissection of the stories to attempt to make a distinction between "A muslim did........" and "Extreame Muslims are......." All the stories are just lumped together and put up as proof of one massive conspiracy theory. Anyone that disagrees with this is dismissed as an apologist and told they don't know what they are talking about.

The problem with this was well set out in Mustafa's thread a few weeks ago but if we continue to lump all Muslims together as responsible for the work of the extremists or as responsible for stopping them/condemning everything they do then all that will happen is we will widen the gap between "us and them" and increase the tensions until the extremists get what they want.

 

[BadFish]

DOUBLE STANDARDS you're BRITISH or you're not BRITISH, MAKE YOUR MIND UP TIME ? how much longer do they need
regards
DR

I am British and Australian and I have two passports to prove it. There is no reason to choose between two cultures in your life. Why not embrace them both?

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

I am British and Australian and I have two passports to prove it. There is no reason to choose between two cultures in your life. Why not embrace them both?

WTF ,we're talking about people born here
regards
DR

 

[BadFish]

WTF ,we're talking about people born here
regards
DR

My kids were born here and still see themselves as half English. My wife was born here (4 generation Australian) and still identifies with the Scottish roots. Many many Australians still identify with there Greek, Italian, Lebanese, Turkish, Indian etc etc roots and we manage to integrate quite well.

What is the problems with it?

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

A lot don't even think of themselves as British. Its always Pakistani first. Fair enough some say after all there nothing more English than an Englishman abroad. But there is ZERO integration when it can be avoided. Muslim business deals with muslim business and employs Bradfordians as a last resort. Enclaves that are almost impossible for white people to live in. All you will ever be is an infidel. You only have to look at our Schools Councils and local MP to see corruption of the system. Women get treated like second class citizens my boss gets ignored by Muslims who work in our dept because she is female she dosnt put up with it but the attitude is the same.

Been mentioning ghettos in this country for a while on here , thanks for confirming, you have to be in denial not to accept this info
regards
DR

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

My kids were born here and still see themselves as half English. My wife was born here (4 generation Australian) and still identifies with the Scottish roots. Many many Australians still identify with there Greek, Italian, Lebanese, Turkish, Indian etc etc roots and we manage to integrate quite well.

What is the problems with it?

you're living in a fantasy world , your kids are Australian and so is your wife
regards
DR

 

[Camicus]

My kids were born here and still see themselves as half English. My wife was born here (4 generation Australian) and still identifies with the Scottish roots. Many many Australians still identify with there Greek, Italian, Lebanese, Turkish, Indian etc etc roots and we manage to integrate quite well.

What is the problems with it?

None and its to be applauded we are after all one species and should treat everyone the same reguardless of where they come from or who they worship. The trouble is in the UK unlike other parts of the world (im struggling to think of one but Im sure there must be) there is the bare minimum of integration. We have Jewish Budhist Hindu Christians atheists living in peace and harmony so why not the muslim population

 

[BadFish]

you're living in a fantasy world , your kids are Australian and so is your wife
regards
DR

My kids all have British Passports and are able to live in the UK so legally they are British and Australian.

They all also identify with their British roots and demonstrate facets of Englishness that they have picked up from me. So culturally they are Also British and Australian.

I will ask you the question again: What is wrong with this?

 

[BadFish]

None and its to be applauded we are after all one species and should treat everyone the same reguardless of where they come from or who they worship. The trouble is in the UK unlike other parts of the world (im struggling to think of one but Im sure there must be) there is the bare minimum of integration. We have Jewish Budhist Hindu Christians atheists living in peace and harmony so why not the muslim population

I wholeheartedly agree. I think that there is clearly an issue with parts of the Muslim population integrating in the UK. There is a concerted effort in the media to stoke up problems between them and everybody else. There have been many things going on in the middle east for the last god knows how many year that has caused or increased much of the tension. Of course mentioning this makes me an apologist to some but I would argue that if we try to understand the reasons for the tensions we are currently suffering from and use this to consider how we should go about making things better then perhaps we can find away to assist them to integrate. I would argue that it would be best to start with the most moderate then work our way up to the more extreame (I don't think we will ever get the real extremists). The problem with our current strategy is that it is having the opposite effect and by lumping them all together and framing everything involving Muslims as part of the global conspiracy we are driving moderate muslims into the arms of the extremists.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

My kids all have British Passports and are able to live in the UK so legally they are British and Australian.

They all also identify with their British roots and demonstrate facets of Englishness that they have picked up from me. So culturally they are Also British and Australian.

I will ask you the question again: What is wrong with this?

no they're Australians with dual passports due to the fact you were born here
regards
DR

 

[BadFish]

no they're Australians with dual passports due to the fact you were born here
regards
DR

Intersting logic:

How about this one?

My Brother in law has two Mauritian parents, was born in London but moved to Australian when he was 3 months old. He sees himself as Australian but celebrates his Mauritan heritage. But in the world of DR he would be English?

 

[Soulman]

My kids were born here and still see themselves as half English. My wife was born here (4 generation Australian) and still identifies with the Scottish roots. Many many Australians still identify with there Greek, Italian, Lebanese, Turkish, Indian etc etc roots and we manage to integrate quite well.

What is the problems with it?

You and your family live 15000 miles away, you can be whoever you like, just don't preach to the the people that live 15000 miles away from you.

 

[BadFish]

You and your family live 15000 miles away, you can be whoever you like, just don't preach to the the people that live 15000 miles away from you.

Well apparently, according to PPF we cannot be who we like, my wife and children have to be Australian. Perhaps you should give him your advice about preaching to others 15,000 miles away too?

Thanks for your input though it was very revealing, I had never realised that my location upset you so much. You really should mention it more often

 

[W.C.]

You and your family live 15000 miles away, you can be whoever you like, just don't preach to the the people that live 15000 miles away from you.

Preach? What is it when you bang on about your opinions all over these threads then?

 

[Deleted member 22389]

A lot don't even think of themselves as British. Its always Pakistani first. Fair enough some say after all there nothing more English than an Englishman abroad. But there is ZERO integration when it can be avoided. Muslim business deals with muslim business and employs Bradfordians as a last resort. Enclaves that are almost impossible for white people to live in. All you will ever be is an infidel. You only have to look at our Schools Councils and local MP to see corruption of the system. Women get treated like second class citizens my boss gets ignored by Muslims who work in our dept because she is female she dosnt put up with it but the attitude is the same.

Sounds like Luton then. I know what your saying.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Well apparently, according to PPF we cannot be who we like, my wife and children have to be Australian. Perhaps you should give him your advice about preaching to others 15,000 miles away too?

Thanks for your input though it was very revealing, I had never realised that my location upset you so much. You really should mention it more often

They don't have to be anything , they're Australian you goon !
regards
DR

 

[El Presidente]

Quite near to where I used to live.

If you'd stayed there you might have been given a free cardigan or pair of gloves.

 

[El Presidente]

Been mentioning ghettos in this country for a while on here , thanks for confirming, you have to be in denial not to accept this info
regards
DR

Wholeheartedly agree, have the buses started running in Whitehawk after dark again yet?