Luton Rabia School 'undermining British values' in treatment of girls

[Deleted member 22389]

Islam is just another daft religion and faith schools should be consigned to the dustbin

is that balanced enough?

Damn right.

 

[TomandJerry]

Islam is just another daft religion and faith schools should be consigned to the dustbin

is that balanced enough?

Yup, but people in higher places like to think otherwise

 

[Creaky]

Proof surely that the system is working and OFSTED has stepped in to stop educational practices that discriminate against certain pupils.

We should be celebrating the fact that the system is working

 

[pasty]

Completely mis-read the title and thought this was about a Labia school

 

[Brovion]

Two easy answers. No faith schools of any description and no independent schools, ie all schools revert to local government management. However, both Labour and the Conservatives seem to think that faith schools and independent schools will improve the quality of education.
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Again, people will instantly choose to use this to demonise Islam, rather than consider that this is obviously an extremely poor example of an Islamic school that should be shut down.

There are great examples of Islamic schools too, such as this one which has 100% GCSE pass rate for both boys and girls.

Keep your views balanced people - it is vital that we support the moderate Muslim communities in assimilating and remaining part of our society, rather than isolating or ostracising them.

Those are both perfectly valid points and I agree to a large extent. However the unpleasant fact remains that for whatever reason we in the West have FAR more to fear from Muslim nutters than we do from Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Buddist, etc nutters, and 'Trojan Horse' Islamic schools are FAR more of a threat to British values than are schools of other faiths. There's only a limit as to how far we can take even-handedness.

Or to quote Dara O Briain: "Tonight on Mock the Week we'll be taking the piss out of Christains, Jews, Hindus and Buddists. But not Muslims. Oh no, we're not stupid!"

 

[wellquickwoody]

Again, people will instantly choose to use this to demonise Islam, rather than consider that this is obviously an extremely poor example of an Islamic school that should be shut down.

There are great examples of Islamic schools too, such as this one which has 100% GCSE pass rate for both boys and girls.

Keep your views balanced people - it is vital that we support the moderate Muslim communities in assimilating and remaining part of our society, rather than isolating or ostracising them.

It should be pointed out that we do have failing state schools, failing indepenedent schools, and failing schools in predominately white areas. What we have not had until now is a failing school on the grounds of sexism and religous indoctrination. Don't try to cover up the facts with your ever so polite way of not denouncing alien Islamic practices.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Are you serious, were you expecting a fully inclusive experience for those Muslim pupils, really ??

Yes. It's not too much to expect schools to obey the law is it?

 

[Notters]

Really wish we had a secular state.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Completely mis-read the title and thought this was about a Labia school

I have to admit, that's what first got my attention.[emoji33]

 

[Notters]

Yeah you're right - it's all down to us to make more of an effort.

That's pretty much the opposite of what [MENTION=7]Mustafa[/MENTION] said.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

Completely mis-read the title and thought this was about a Labia school

Now that is something to get your lips round!

 

[glasfryn]

Those are both perfectly valid points and I agree to a large extent. However the unpleasant fact remains that for whatever reason we in the West have FAR more to fear from Muslim nutters than we do from Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Buddist, etc nutters, and 'Trojan Horse' Islamic schools are FAR more of a threat to British values than are schools of other faiths. There's only a limit as to how far we can take even-handedness.

Or to quote Dara O Briain: "Tonight on Mock the Week we'll be taking the piss out of Christains, Jews, Hindus and Buddists. But not Muslims. Oh no, we're not stupid!"

I went to a faith school and got a good balanced education so much so that now I am a committed socialist and agnostic, my education taught me to question things throughout my whole life
the school I went to was Cottesmore now Cardinal Newman.
but that was then and things were a lot different.

 

[severnside gull]

An Islamic school is "undermining British values" and "limits girls to knitting and sewing" in technology classes, Ofsted inspectors say.

Rabia Girls and Boys School in Luton had "not met" standards needed for an independent school, the watchdog said.

Ofsted said the school practised "unequal treatment of girls and boys" and teaching quality was "inadequate".

The school said it was focused on "making the improvements needed to raise standards".

Proof we can't have Islamic schools since they are sexist and against our values, says alot about muslims!

Edit: source http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-31452814

One failing school is "proof" that all single faith schools should not be allowed?

Hmmmm

 

[KZNSeagull]

A poor article.

What are Ofsted going to do about it?
What will happen if this school fails it's next inspection?
How are Ofsted going to ensure that the girls in that school are empowered to stand up for their rights to be taught the same subjects as boys?
Are complaint processes in place to ensure that if a girl at that school wants to complain about what they are taught, that they are able to do so without fear of repercussions?

 

[Dandyman]

Those are both perfectly valid points and I agree to a large extent. However the unpleasant fact remains that for whatever reason we in the West have FAR more to fear from Muslim nutters than we do from Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Buddist, etc nutters, and 'Trojan Horse' Islamic schools are FAR more of a threat to British values than are schools of other faiths. There's only a limit as to how far we can take even-handedness.

Or to quote Dara O Briain: "Tonight on Mock the Week we'll be taking the piss out of Christains, Jews, Hindus and Buddists. But not Muslims. Oh no, we're not stupid!"

As far as I am aware Anders Breivik murdered at least 77 people in Norway. The Islamists will need to pull their fingers out to catch up with him.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

As far as I am aware Anders Breivik murdered at least 77 people in Norway. The Islamists will need to pull their fingers out to catch up with him.

Ever heard of 9/11?

 

[looney]

As far as I am aware Anders Breivik murdered at least 77 people in Norway. The Islamists will need to pull their fingers out to catch up with him.

Oh I think Boko Haram bagged 20 times that amount a week or so ago. Then theres however many ISIS have torched or tossed of tower tops in the last week.

Oh and it looks like Al-quida and IS in Yemen are squaring up for an Islamic willy waving contest near the capital Senna atm.

But even if your laughable comparison was valid, so what? Your no more than the snivelling child trying to distract attention.

 

[Soulman]

As far as I am aware Anders Breivik murdered at least 77 people in Norway. The Islamists will need to pull their fingers out to catch up with him.

Well just today they are making a go of it.....today.
Taliban militants have attacked worshippers at a Shia mosque in the Pakistani city of Peshawar with guns and grenades, killing at least 20.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-sou...ng&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central

Nigerian Boko Haram militants have carried out an attack on Chad overnight, the first such assault on Chadian soil, officials say.
Fighters crossed Lake Chad in four motorboats and attacked a village, an army spokesman told the BBC.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-31460077

The attack comes two weeks after a suicide bombing at an Imambargah in Shikarpur which killed 61 people

 

[Dandyman]

Oh I think Boko Haram bagged 20 times that amount a week or so ago. Then theres however many ISIS have torched or tossed of tower tops in the last week.

Oh and it looks like Al-quida and IS in Yemen are squaring up for an Islamic willy waving contest near the capital Senna atm.

But even if your laughable comparison was valid, so what? Your no more than the snivelling child trying to distract attention.

You'll have to remind me how many people Blair and Bush killed in Iraq and which bunch of nutters we are supposed to be backing in Syria.

 

[Dandyman]

Well just today they are making a go of it.....today.
Taliban militants have attacked worshippers at a Shia mosque in the Pakistani city of Peshawar with guns and grenades, killing at least 20.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-sou...ng&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central

Nigerian Boko Haram militants have carried out an attack on Chad overnight, the first such assault on Chadian soil, officials say.
Fighters crossed Lake Chad in four motorboats and attacked a village, an army spokesman told the BBC.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-31460077

The attack comes two weeks after a suicide bombing at an Imambargah in Shikarpur which killed 61 people

All of which I condemn.

Are you willing to condemn Breivik, David Copeland or Ian Forman ?