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Acker79

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Nov 15, 2008
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Taking the piss out of people on NSC is part and parcel of a football message board. Using someone’s child as a vehicle to have a go at the parent is different.

I think this discussion is focusing on an aspect I wasn't really addressing. I would argue to this point, though, that there is a difference between taking the piss and deliberately causing distress, that we shouldn't limit restraint in posting only when it relates to someone's kid, that distress should be avoided even when children aren't involved.

My point with my first post was more about the general behaviour and how for years it's been fine to leer over women, be abusive toward women (at least those on reality shows), etc, but the moment we know the father of one of them everyone starts walking on eggshells. "Before posting, just ask what you’d think if it was your own daughter that the comment was about" etc. This isn't coming about because we know her, but because we know her father. There's been no mention on here about showing the same restraint toward the other women on the show. Because we don't know the men in their lives. My point is about how we frame the way we treat women by how we relate to the men in their lives rather than looking at the women as their own person. But like I said, liberal snowflake, me.
 


El Presidente

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Jul 5, 2003
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I think this discussion is focusing on an aspect I wasn't really addressing. I would argue to this point, though, that there is a difference between taking the piss and deliberately causing distress, that we shouldn't limit restraint in posting only when it relates to someone's kid, that distress should be avoided even when children aren't involved.

My point with my first post was more about the general behaviour and how for years it's been fine to leer over women, be abusive toward women (at least those on reality shows), etc, but the moment we know the father of one of them everyone starts walking on eggshells. "Before posting, just ask what you’d think if it was your own daughter that the comment was about" etc. This isn't coming about because we know her, but because we know her father. There's been no mention on here about showing the same restraint toward the other women on the show. Because we don't know the men in their lives. My point is about how we frame the way we treat women by how we relate to the men in their lives rather than looking at the women as their own person. But like I said, liberal snowflake, me.

If her mother was a poster on NSC I’d say exactly the same, so the gender is an irrelevance.


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The Wookiee

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Nov 10, 2003
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Forget whose daughter it is, at the end of the day it is one of the most watched shows on tv and a participant is from Worthing. I say we all should support her !
 






Giraffe

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Aug 8, 2005
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I’ve never watched it but my daughter says it’s great.

I like Ian Hart though and he is quite rightly supporting his daughter in her ambitions. Provided she is correctly supported, and I see no reason why she won’t be, this could be a fantastic stepping stone to greater things for her. Must be very exciting for the family and those that know her. I’m sure she will do very well.
 


The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
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I think I might have watched this with a hangover once. I think.
Some bloke (northern I think) talking about how his girlfriend keeps trying to shove things up his arse.
Can’t say I’d particularly want to watch endless footage of douche bags trying to bone my daughter but I suppose that’s what happens irl whether it’s being filmed or not.
Do they make money out of it?
 




El Presidente

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I think I might have watched this with a hangover once. I think.
Some bloke (northern I think) talking about how his girlfriend keeps trying to shove things up his arse.
Can’t say I’d particularly want to watch endless footage of douche bags trying to bone my daughter but I suppose that’s what happens irl whether it’s being filmed or not.
Do they make money out of it?

The contestants usually have a shelf life of 3-6 months at the end of the show, appearances in clubs etc and then media focus tends to move on to other 'celebrities' unless they do something notorious (which results in appearing in other reality shows) or get a job in the media itself.
 






McTavish

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Nov 5, 2014
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I think this discussion is focusing on an aspect I wasn't really addressing. I would argue to this point, though, that there is a difference between taking the piss and deliberately causing distress, that we shouldn't limit restraint in posting only when it relates to someone's kid, that distress should be avoided even when children aren't involved.

My point with my first post was more about the general behaviour and how for years it's been fine to leer over women, be abusive toward women (at least those on reality shows), etc, but the moment we know the father of one of them everyone starts walking on eggshells. "Before posting, just ask what you’d think if it was your own daughter that the comment was about" etc. This isn't coming about because we know her, but because we know her father. There's been no mention on here about showing the same restraint toward the other women on the show. Because we don't know the men in their lives. My point is about how we frame the way we treat women by how we relate to the men in their lives rather than looking at the women as their own person. But like I said, liberal snowflake, me.

Whilst I understand your point about general treatment of women, I think the main difference here is that we can be fairly sure that the father and probably other members of the family will see any comments. It's the difference between seeing a baby on the telly and saying, "What an ugly baby!" and looking into a pram whilst the parent is pushing it and saying the same thing.
 




Gritt23

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Jul 7, 2003
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Meopham, Kent.
Having slagged it off for years miss WD made me watch it last year, it's actually pretty brutal [emoji16]

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Similar thing happened in my house last year. Been knocking my daughter for watching it, but the previous year she'd taken to just disappearing up to her room and watching it on her own. I thought nah, don't like that, and settled down to watch it with her last year. Within a week, my son, and my wife had also joined in and we were loving it. By the last week of the show, we were away on holiday, trying to stream coverage onto our tablets, coming from whatever else we were doing because we couldn't miss Love Island.
 


Goldstone1976

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Apr 30, 2013
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Whilst I understand your point about general treatment of women, I think the main difference here is that we can be fairly sure that the father and probably other members of the family will see any comments. It's the difference between seeing a baby on the telly and saying, "What an ugly baby!" and looking into a pram whilst the parent is pushing it and saying the same thing.

That - and what EP said: that there are some people on here who like to take a pop at Harty, and that doing so through the vehicle of his daughter appearing on the programme won’t be considered acceptable.
 


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