Hotchilidog
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- Jan 24, 2009
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Starmer knew about this in 2020 when Haigh was appointed shadow NI secretaryHow do you know?
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...o-10-over-possible-breach-of-ministerial-code
Starmer knew about this in 2020 when Haigh was appointed shadow NI secretaryHow do you know?
Yet the Tory party elected a leader of the opposition who hacked another MP's computer?Nothing wrong with the vetting - they knew about it. The decision making was the stupid bit.
She didn't resign because of the fraud offence, she resigned because it became public.
Whataboutism is alive and wellYet the Tory party elected a leader of the opposition who hacked another MP's computer?
Do you think Badenoch should resign too?Whataboutism is alive and well
Honest politicians, my god what world do you live in , there is no such thing in this worldTransport Secretary resigns
Transport Secretary Louise Haigh resigns after Sky News revealed mobile phone guilty plea
Louise Haigh admitted on Thursday she had pleaded guilty to an offence after incorrectly telling police that a work mobile phone was stolen in 2013.news.sky.com
We must have honest, credible and capable politicians and even more so, cabinet ministers. But perhaps we should also be a little sensible as to where the line is drawn? This lady was mugged and made an error of judgement concerning a phone over 10 years ago. Yes she held BJ to account over dishonesty but he was surely in a different league.
I feel sorry for her but this story also adds to my greater concern that we will never attract ‘normal but capable’ people into politics
You're very late to the party. You should the whataboutery I used in post 47.Whataboutism is alive and well
Hell no. She'll be an asset to the Labour party.Do you think Badenoch should resign too?
Who?Do you think Badenoch should resign too?
And certainly not then arrest the original owner....Have just read her statement. Just doesnt make sense. Said when she found phone she reported as stolen and when she turned it on this triggered police attention. There is more to this. They hardly gave any attention to a fairly big house break in near me. I am sure no police force is set up to track one stolen mobile.
I’m aware that they knew about it and chose to ignore it !!See the post after yours.
I fear that your biases have swept you away, here.
You're a keen fan of the law, aren't you?I’m not commenting on her guilt or innocence - she pled guilty, end of, whether she says it was under legal advice or not it was her choice and if she was innocent she could’ve pled not guilty, so I don’t buy that.
I was just pointing out to the poster that not commenting in a police interview is usually the correct course of action.
A police interview is for the police’s benefit, not the accused, to gather evidence. She very probably gave a prepared statement instead - if she lied in that, that’s her choice but a bad one.
I certainly am, I support the law fully. Not too keen on those that break it, though.You're a keen fan of the law, aren't you?
Criminal act shirley or does everyone do this stuff?Yet the Tory party elected a leader of the opposition who hacked another MP's computer?
Quite, I was researching as to whether or not she actually had a criminal record, naively assuming that you would not be able to become an MP with one, then I found out that in most cases it would be allowed. So we seem to have a society where, if previously convicted, you can't be a Policeman (law upholder) but you can be an MP (law maker), seems like a bit of a juxtaposition to me.I might have this wrong (and, if anyone can provide evidence to the contrary, please do) but I don't think Haigh actually has a criminal record but has been found guilty of a criminal conviction. I was half-listening to WatO and I think this distinction was raised.
I think we're struggling a bit when we find ourselves saying "Yes, they are a convicted criminal, but they don't have a criminal record."I might have this wrong (and, if anyone can provide evidence to the contrary, please do) but I don't think Haigh actually has a criminal record but has been found guilty of a criminal conviction. I was half-listening to WatO and I think this distinction was raised.
How do you support it then? Generally turn up on a Saturday afternoon and wave from the touchlines?I certainly am, I support the law fully. Not too keen on those that break it, though.