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[Politics] Louise Haigh







carlzeiss

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May 19, 2009
6,265
Amazonia
Do we know if she was actually mugged or did she just claim that she was in order to get an upgrade on her work phone from her employer ?
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
It's a strange one. Many years ago I was burgled, but I had marked the property taken with the ultra violet pen you could buy.
In the meantime, my insurance paid out so I bought a new tv, vcr and microwave. Fast forward two years, and the police arrested several men in conjunction with car theft, but also went through their homes for evidence. They'd sold the vcr and microwave, but one of them had kept the tv. They were charged with our burglary as well as the other crimes and they all got five years.
The police rang me to say I could have my tv back, but I told them the insurance company had paid out. They said they didn't want it, and when I rang the insurance company, they didn't want it either. So, I ended up with two tvs.
At least my conscience was clear.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Nothing wrong with the vetting - they knew about it. The decision making was the stupid bit.

She didn't resign because of the fraud offence, she resigned because it became public.
Yet the Tory party elected a leader of the opposition who hacked another MP's computer?
 








tigertim68

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Sep 3, 2012
2,669
Transport Secretary resigns


We must have honest, credible and capable politicians and even more so, cabinet ministers. But perhaps we should also be a little sensible as to where the line is drawn? This lady was mugged and made an error of judgement concerning a phone over 10 years ago. Yes she held BJ to account over dishonesty but he was surely in a different league.
I feel sorry for her but this story also adds to my greater concern that we will never attract ‘normal but capable’ people into politics
Honest politicians, my god what world do you live in , there is no such thing in this world
 








Bry Nylon

Test your smoke alarm
Helpful Moderator
Jul 21, 2003
20,650
Playing snooker
This brush with the rozzers over 10-years ago was well-known to the PM, his Chief of Staff (both former and present), the Cabinet Secretary and the Chief Whip.

Anyway, on other matters entirely, far from being a problem for a PM, it is always something of an opportunity having someone in the top team that you can lob over-board whenever you feel its time to shuffle the pack a bit. Avoids all that messy business of having to find a reason to sack someone if you can simply release a pre-written 'Exchange of Letters' late on a Thursday night and crack on.
 






amexer

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Aug 8, 2011
6,906
Have just read her statement. Just doesnt make sense. Said when she found phone she reported as stolen and when she turned it on this triggered police attention. There is more to this. They hardly gave any attention to a fairly big house break in near me. I am sure no police force is set up to track one stolen mobile.
 


Bodian

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May 3, 2012
14,574
Cumbria
Have just read her statement. Just doesnt make sense. Said when she found phone she reported as stolen and when she turned it on this triggered police attention. There is more to this. They hardly gave any attention to a fairly big house break in near me. I am sure no police force is set up to track one stolen mobile.
And certainly not then arrest the original owner....
 


Rdodge30

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Dec 30, 2022
742
See the post after yours.

I fear that your biases have swept you away, here.
I’m aware that they knew about it and chose to ignore it !!

My take on that is that it is amateurish vetting.

I fail to see how I’m wrong or prejudiced? (I have already said in another thread that this is just a distraction- it’s the policies that are relevant not this 👍
 




ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
15,237
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
I’m not commenting on her guilt or innocence - she pled guilty, end of, whether she says it was under legal advice or not it was her choice and if she was innocent she could’ve pled not guilty, so I don’t buy that.

I was just pointing out to the poster that not commenting in a police interview is usually the correct course of action.

A police interview is for the police’s benefit, not the accused, to gather evidence. She very probably gave a prepared statement instead - if she lied in that, that’s her choice but a bad one.
You're a keen fan of the law, aren't you?
 






zeemeeuw

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Apr 8, 2006
791
Somerset
I might have this wrong (and, if anyone can provide evidence to the contrary, please do) but I don't think Haigh actually has a criminal record but has been found guilty of a criminal conviction. I was half-listening to WatO and I think this distinction was raised.
Quite, I was researching as to whether or not she actually had a criminal record, naively assuming that you would not be able to become an MP with one, then I found out that in most cases it would be allowed. So we seem to have a society where, if previously convicted, you can't be a Policeman (law upholder) but you can be an MP (law maker), seems like a bit of a juxtaposition to me.
 




Bozza

You can change this
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Jul 4, 2003
57,470
Back in Sussex
I might have this wrong (and, if anyone can provide evidence to the contrary, please do) but I don't think Haigh actually has a criminal record but has been found guilty of a criminal conviction. I was half-listening to WatO and I think this distinction was raised.
I think we're struggling a bit when we find ourselves saying "Yes, they are a convicted criminal, but they don't have a criminal record."

If I had a pound for every time I reported my mobile phone as being stolen, only to find it wasn't, then not telling anyone, ending up in court and being convicted of fraud, I'd be a millionaire.

I mean, who hasn't done that, in this day and age?
 




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