Losing the love for the albion

[maltaseagull]

Seems like the right place to put this question:

I have read recently that the Amex at £95 million, is the most expensive stadium ever built, anywhere, on a £ per seat ratio.

Anyone know if this is correct and if so why?

I would have thought Wembley and the Emirates would both be above the Amex in that category

 

[Seagull1989]

Glad this thread has already been started! Just rang up the ticket line as I can't seem to sign in online to reserve my Newcastle seats. I got through at 16:57 on my clock, bearing in mind that the ticket office closes at 17.00 , only for the operator to pick up the phone and put it straight down! Im fuming at this service if this was any other company I would not do business with them again but I suppose the club know that fans are for life and can treat them how they like.

EDIT: ps if anyone knows why it lets me log in online then when I click reserve cup seats then logs me out again and wont let me back in please le tme know how to resolve this

 

[Dave the OAP]

Apologies if you take this the wrong way - but you really are not particuarly intelligent are you?

oh gawd, he is going to upset Reichy!!! Run for the hills

 

[Seasider78]

Funny none of these 'the club no longer loves me' threads existed before the newcastle ticket prices were announced

Some of the whining on here is simply astonishing I hope tony bloom is not reading this or he will be wondering why he bothered

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Some of the whining on here is simply astonishing I hope tony bloom is not reading this or he will be wondering why he bothered

 

[piersa]

Absolutely agree. The OP should just quit going if he doesn't like it. Sick of all the whining on here these days.

So, you are whining about the whining that you are sick of. Interesting.

 

[piersa]

Seems like the right place to put this question:

I have read recently that the Amex at £95 million, is the most expensive stadium ever built, anywhere, on a £ per seat ratio.

Anyone know if this is correct and if so why?

Very basic to know that the answer is clearly no.

 

[otk]

So you are going to go to an art gallery every fortnight rather than the Amex?

Or a jumble sale, or an am dram matinee

Anything but this contrived 'experience' that is being served up

 

[Dr. Notthenineo'clocknews]

I've been supporting the mighty stripes for over 20 years, been solidly going to 35+ games a season for about 15 years now, a football club is about the fans and the club for me are so out of touch & have completely forgotten where we've come from & the ones that ensured were here today to a level thats quite obsurd!

For the follwing reasons shown I feel its just not my football club anymore, feels like ive lost a good friend who's won the lottery and now doesnt want to know you anymore and doesnt need you. I used to LOVE going to albion games, my highlight of the week, now it's just something I do and i'd go as far as saying I hate the powers that be at this club for what were tuning into.

I realise we have a ground to pay for, I realise we are tying to attact new fans, I realise we want profit to attract better players and grow the brand but everyday I'm surrouded by the business & politics of my football club thats come to the fore in the last 18 months that the taste in my mouth is getting more harder to swallow and I really dont know how much longer I'll be part of it, then again i'm a number & the club wont really be bothered anyway.

Pricing

£4 pies, £4.50 cheeseburgers - Not only well overpriced, also nothing special, we appear to be paying premiership food prices, why?

£13 car parking, never been to an away ground anywhere in the country and paid that? Why are we being ripped off?

£41 for a Newcastle ticket in a 3rd round cup game, FCUKING WHY?

£635 season ticket - Premiership prices already!


Banning people,stewards, singing songs & atmophere

- Fans getting thrown out for anti palace songs!! Seriously! (what is this perfect zombie lik environment being created)

- Over zelous stewards being instructed to behave in this way by the club to anyone not staying either in silence

- Where I sit if you say fcuk or bollocks your looked at by fellow fans like your an animal (It's the FOOTBALL LOVE) - The club trying to create this nice, fun and family orientated environment with no swearing, no anti palace songs, Gee up music, comfy seats and sweets and lollipops on sale, how lovely!


Now for the reasons above my amazing football club who rose from the depths have now become a well oiled machine which rips fans off, puts ridiculous rules of what you can fukng sing now, reporting procedure if you hear someone swear but I for one am proud of where weve come from and the real reasons were still here but also embarrassed on the same level as were catering for the new breed and you either conform with no standing, anti anthing rules or fcuk off your banned.

Maybe it's not just the Albion, maybe it' slightly the whole of football that im dissalussioned with, the money, the greed, the tighter rules being implemented, it's just all going in a direction that doesnt fill me will any form of excitement.

Rant over.

you seem obsessed with your right to swear yet you continually try and dress it up by using narritives such as 'fcuk' instead of 'f***' so therefore admit this is a habit of yours which isn't ideal. I swear, I swear a lot, but I know where and when. I can control my self even when pissed, sorry p15$£d, I don't swear on a bus and I don't swear in front of kids, so if i'm sitting next to one I don't call the ref a **** (I didn't delete this by the way) It's not hard (for f***'s sake), By the way you pay nearly twice what I pay for a ST (I think) and I have an excellent view.

 

[RupertsFlan]

Funny none of these 'the club no longer loves me' threads existed before the newcastle ticket prices were announced

Some of the whining on here is simply astonishing I hope tony bloom is not reading this or he will be wondering why he bothered

one hopes beyond hope that he would realise that the 'nutters' on here are simply very sad and in need of hlp rather than a reflection of the main voice and opinion of Albion fans.

If not of course well - we're f***ed arent we?

 

[Justice]

I've posted somewhere before I think 24 quid is about right for a championship game to ask 39 notes to watch a team half full of league 1 players is a piss take in my opinion.

 

[Caveman]

So, you are whining about the whining that you are sick of. Interesting.

Well I am sick of the whining about the whining of the whiners whining??

I think?

 

[dejavuatbtn]

Yep. Said it before - losing its soul. Such a shame. Trouble is that you either put up or shut up - and in this I mean if I gave up my season tickets, it would become more and more difficult to get tickets to see an odd match. At the moment I am still engaged enough to keep going, but I can see the day when the balance tips and I look elsewhere to fill my saturdays.

 

[ewe2]

nothing to see here !

 

[Nottseagull]

Without checking the facts, the simple answer is BECAUSE IT'S THE NEWEST.

I think he may have meant in real terms, which would make R & D's stadium at Irthlingborough one of the priciest. But at the other end of the scale, Middlesbrough got an absolute bargain with the 'BT Cellnet Stadium' )); think it only cost £16m.

 

[T soprano]

I'm Brighton till I die
I'm Brighton till I die
I know I am I'm sure I am
I'm Brighton till I die

Unless the pies go up to £5

 

[Gregory2Smith1]

I've been supporting the mighty stripes for over 20 years, been solidly going to 35+ games a season for about 15 years now, a football club is about the fans and the club for me are so out of touch & have completely forgotten where we've come from & the ones that ensured were here today to a level thats quite obsurd!

For the follwing reasons shown I feel its just not my football club anymore, feels like ive lost a good friend who's won the lottery and now doesnt want to know you anymore and doesnt need you. I used to LOVE going to albion games, my highlight of the week, now it's just something I do and i'd go as far as saying I hate the powers that be at this club for what were tuning into.

I realise we have a ground to pay for, I realise we are tying to attact new fans, I realise we want profit to attract better players and grow the brand but everyday I'm surrouded by the business & politics of my football club thats come to the fore in the last 18 months that the taste in my mouth is getting more harder to swallow and I really dont know how much longer I'll be part of it, then again i'm a number & the club wont really be bothered anyway.

Pricing

£4 pies, £4.50 cheeseburgers - Not only well overpriced, also nothing special, we appear to be paying premiership food prices, why?

£13 car parking, never been to an away ground anywhere in the country and paid that? Why are we being ripped off?

£41 for a Newcastle ticket in a 3rd round cup game, FCUKING WHY?

£635 season ticket - Premiership prices already!


Banning people,stewards, singing songs & atmophere

- Fans getting thrown out for anti palace songs!! Seriously! (what is this perfect zombie lik environment being created)

- Over zelous stewards being instructed to behave in this way by the club to anyone not staying either in silence

- Where I sit if you say fcuk or bollocks your looked at by fellow fans like your an animal (It's the FOOTBALL LOVE)

- The club trying to create this nice, fun and family orientated environment with no swearing, no anti palace songs, Gee up music, comfy seats and sweets and lollipops on sale, how lovely!


Now for the reasons above my amazing football club who rose from the depths have now become a well oiled machine which rips fans off, puts ridiculous rules of what you can fukng sing now, reporting procedure if you hear someone swear but I for one am proud of where weve come from and the real reasons were still here but also embarrassed on the same level as were catering for the new breed and you either conform with no standing, anti anthing rules or fcuk off your banned.

Maybe it's not just the Albion, maybe it' slightly the whole of football that im dissalussioned with, the money, the greed, the tighter rules being implemented, it's just all going in a direction that doesnt fill me will any form of excitement.

Rant over.

I can see where your coming from

I don't know what to say really

I'm a humble man,but supported the Albion all my life and will continue to do so

The money in the game is now stupid and it seems to be including the supporters now

I'm talking about the "I earn loads of money and I've bought a season ticket and demand success brigade"

f*** 'em

Brighton is in the blood

There is no choice

And yes,I f***ing Hate cristals with a passion

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

You need to qualify what a JCL is? People who fell out of love with the club during the wildnerness years? People who gave up at Withdean? Gillingham? People who simply felt that the money was not justified for the experince of going to watch second, thurd division football (on the whole) in appalling conditions.

It is a question of scale and sustainability. If you want to have a quaint, cottage-industry style football club you will end up with up with very die hard fans as a core.

In our case probably somewhere around the 6-8,000 mark. That level of support sustains nothing and has no scale. On that premise there is no poin having a new ground.

The reality is - and this is where nostalgia needs to be carefully managed - that to grow a fan base and bring back the hordes of local football fans, the experience, the facilities need to justify as far as possible the price.

In my opinion the Albion have done this better than most. Local produce - pies and ale - comes at a premium because there simplynot the scale of supply that carlsberg, pukka etc have in being provided. do you want a local feel but at global supply prices? If so then you need to let us all know as its not economicaly viable.

Pricing of tickets - how many other clubs have the driect debit scheme - as far as I know hardly any if not none at all. I have no reason to believe that the club would withdraw this as the financial plan would have been based on the revenue being generated & collected on that basis. Interestingly many companies who sell to cusomers and consumer now deliver their products on a subscription style basis and investors and share holders alike are more comfortable in lending and supporting companies with that model. In essence it is a lower risk to revenue. Collecting money in lump sums is attractive in one way but represents a massive risk should customers decide not to reinvest in a season ticket.

With subscription is proides more coverage and is easier to replace with new customers as long as your attrition is not huge. 300 season ticket holders decide not to renew at £600 - that is is a signficatn dent and harder to replace.

300 people decide not to renew and it is a smaller dent in cashflow and certainly easier to recruit new customers.

All in all the clu have in my opinion done an excellent job. Every company on the planet has poor customer service at times, questions about product and pricing - particularly in the current economic climate.

however to dleiver what some (and it appears to be very much the minority) on here seem to want is a reutnr to good old days.

Third division football, delapidated ground unfit for use - but the ability to turn up on the day and have a chat with the directors.

Frankly I would see a return to old days as a disaster as until recent years this footall club has been a complete laughing stock of the wider football world - certianly the way it was run.

If the worst we have to deal with with is peopl complaining about the occasional berk of steward, queues for beer that are annoying and a manager who is still learning how to deal with the media then I can wear that.

We aer being served up championship football in front of crowds of 24,000 on average - do you wonder why the attendances are at their highest for 30 years?

It may because all things considered we are being provided with an outstanding product that is pretty much good value for money.

the club has always had the fan base , PEOPLE DRIFTED AWAY WHEN THE GOLDSTONE WENT , Withdean was a joke BUT ENDURED BY THE DIE HARDS ,Amex is good but only to a point and people don't always agree on those points, DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU WANT OUT OF THE " EXPERIENCE"

 

[SIMMO SAYS]

I'm Brighton till I die
I'm Brighton till I die
I know I am I'm sure I am
I'm Brighton till I die

Unless the pies go up to £5

I once had a pie in the posh end of Shoreham. It cost me £5.00 but included chips-beans-mushrooms-black pudding-fried bread-two mugs of tea and half an hour out the back with the waitress---I felt ripped off!

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Apologies if you take this the wrong way - but you really are not particuarly intelligent are you?

YOU'VE SWERVED THE QUESTION when did your 4 "friends" last turn out at an Albion game