[Politics] Loony labour vote to abolish private education

[Moshe Gariani]

So its not really that excellent then, is it.

I'm no Tory but this is yet more hot air bollocks from corbyn

It is a Conference resolution NOT “from Corbyn”...

However, the abolition of private schools - and the wider reduction in passing of privilege down through families (e.g. 100% inheritance tax over £50,000) - WILL be a very good thing when the country comes to its senses at some point. May well not be in our lifetime but I hope it will be some time...

 

[portslade seagull]

I’m not sure how I feel about this. Imagine you rock up to your local state comp and now find you have ***** like JRM and Boris in your class.

Anyone for rugger

 

[Iggle Piggle]

I've never had the funds for Private school. I certainly have limited love for the entitled range rovers that drive at me going to the school at the end of my road. This though, is the politics of envy.

Raise the standards of state schools so kids have a better education and sporting background. Not penalise those that are lucky enough to afford it and are taking a burden off the state in doing so.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Sensible policy that would benefit the country as a whole.

Excellent policy.

Incredibly difficult to achieve though - given the extent of privilege and power reliant on the two tier system being maintained.

How would it benefit the children in private special needs schools who have been previously failed by the ideologically driven policy of inclusion ? How about the thousands of foreign children in private international schools ?
It’s not all about privilege.

 

[tigertim68]

Sensible policy that would benefit the country as a whole.

Yes of course it would , the whole Labour leadership went to private schools, bunch of hypocrites

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

Sounds like you could have done with a decent education !!

Good point well made.

But did you ever watch The Young Ones?

Crikey, I have just thought about that, have I just whooshed myself.

 

[swindonseagull]

It is a Conference resolution NOT “from Corbyn”...

However, the abolition of private schools - and the wider reduction in passing of privilege down through families (e.g. 100% inheritance tax over £50,000) - WILL be a very good thing when the country comes to its senses at some point. May well not be in our lifetime but I hope it will be some time...

Im guessing you or your parents dont own property......must be the jealousy of people who have bought houses that will be passed on to kids?

 

[beorhthelm]

I've never had the funds for Private school. I certainly have limited love for the entitled range rovers that drive at me going to the school at the end of my road. This though, is the politics of envy.

Raise the standards of state schools so kids have a better education and sporting background. Not penalise those that are lucky enough to afford it and are taking a burden off the state in doing so.

yes. its a distraction really, what would beneficial is policies to help education, seems they dont have any so have this instead. good for the socialist cause, doesnt help anyone though.

 

[Triggaaar]

Sensible policy that would benefit the country as a whole.

How?

 

[Wardy's twin]

I honestly don't think labour will get back in on a 'leftist' manifesto, too many people with too much to lose (or fear they might lose) despite the austerity. Need to moderate the language to have any chance of winning over the central ground.

 

[southstandandy]

The biggest concern for me would be if you did away with the private sector education system for those happy and able to afford it, all of a sudden according to latest figures you'd have some 615,000 extra children to squeeze into the state system. And I thought schools were over crowded and under funded as it is. There will always be people with more money wanting to spend it different things and I have no problem if that includes paying for some children to have private education or to have private health care for example.

 

[ATFC Seagull]

Im guessing you or your parents dont own property......must be the jealousy of people who have bought houses that will be passed on to kids?

I'll put my hand up - I am very much in favour of huge inheritance tax introductions and it is for that exact reason. I am aware it is very much the politics of envy but I don't think that makes it void. I am a public sector worker who earns a nice salary but nothing exciting. My wife's parents own a house worth about £150k up north and she is one of 6, and my parents do not own property. We are lucky enough to have saved up enough deposit buy a small house, however it is very small and we'll never be able to upgrade, as the mortgage is a stretch as it is for us - salaries are unlikely to increase (apart from with inflation if we're lucky) and to be honest interest rates will probably rise substantially at some point between now and the mortage being paid off (when we are 65). However the majority of people I work with live in bigger houses, in nicer areas, and are paying way less on their mortgage each month - purely because their parents have helped them out.

I get the arguments for inheritance - i.e. the prospect of handing down property is a huge motivator for people to work hard, and particularly the sentimental issue over family homes etc. But it's a strange society when people can achieve the same qualifications, do the same job to the same standard, and yet have such different standards of living to their co-workers due to the fortune of how successful and prudent their parents were.

And yes, I am a completely jealous *******.

 

[Triggaaar]

e.g. 100% inheritance tax over £50,000) - WILL be a very good thing when the country comes to its senses at some point.

 

[Weststander]

A command economy, controlling policy borne out of spite and jealousy.

I know many families who send their kids to non-posh local independent schools, where the parents are not wealthy, but both parents earn decent money and they forego holidays etc. Living in average homes in parts such as Poet’s Corner, Westdene, Patcham, Saltdean. Often having switched their kids out of local state schools due to relentless bullying, which was NOT dealt with by awful heads.

So why drag kids back into the state sector, where their parents already pay both taxes for state schools (which they don’t take up) and school fees?

If some state schools are definitely failing, then increase taxation and target them to give the help they need.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Good point well made.

But did you ever watch The Young Ones?

Crikey, I have just thought about that, have I just whooshed myself.

Daddy’s got a Porsche....fwarrrrr.

 

[Triggaaar]

But it's a strange society when people can achieve the same qualifications, do the same job to the same standard, and yet have such different standards of living to their co-workers due to the fortune of how successful and prudent their parents were.

That's basically how it's been for every living creature forever, so what makes it so strange?

 

[ATFC Seagull]

That's basically how it's been for every living creature forever, so what makes it so strange?

Good point, I guess I mean "unfair" rather than strange.

Perhaps given the spike of the cost of living in the last 20 years, it has become a more pronounced and noticeable difference for those that do not inherit wealth.

 

[vegster]

Been reported by the BBC that Labour Party members have today agreed to abolish private schools and integrate them and their assets into the state school system. If heaven forbid Corbyn became PM.

My view is this is deeply worrying as it is another example of Corbyns hard left labour trying to turn the UK into something akin to a communist state. No freedom of choice just do what we say. What next every Mercedes or BMW driver having to donate their cars to people that can only afford bicycles!

Labour used to be a respectable, responsible but caring party but under corbyn it has just morphed into an extremist socialist workers wet dream. How can anyone take labour seriously, they make even Boris look sensible

The Tories used to be respectable, responsible and caring too, then they sold off virtually all our state assets in order to subsidise short term tax cuts so they would get re-elected. They used to say privatising our state assets and industry would make them competitive and reduce the cost to consumers. That went well didn't it ?

 

[portslade seagull]

I honestly don't think labour will get back in on a 'leftist' manifesto, too many people with too much to lose (or fear they might lose) despite the austerity. Need to moderate the language to have any chance of winning over the central ground.

A fair chunk of labour supporters own their own homes and just about keeping there heads above water. What a great way to alienate them for having the audacity to try and better themselves

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Good point, I guess I mean "unfair" rather than strange.

Perhaps given the spike of the cost of living in the last 20 years, it has become a more pronounced and noticeable difference for those that do not inherit wealth.

I have had the thinking, for a long time now, that earning about the average annual wage should bring certain rewards with it. Yet I know people who earn above but have struggled to buy even modest property etc. That seems strange and unfair to me.