[Misc] London Overground lines renamed

[Eeyore]

Unbelievable. Lefties getting their way again.

Hold on, I haven't bought my popcorn yet.

 

[jackalbion]

Agree, the names are very strange, and have little relevance to the people using them. The weavers line should (with all due respect to @cheshunt seagull) be called the Enfield Line or if looking for historical context the Enfield Rifle Line. The trains would then become Bullet trains by default, even if the reality is somewhat different

See the pedant in me wouldn't want to see it named the Enfield Line as it goes to two different destinations, calling it a destination as the name of the line would indicate to first time users that all trains go to Enfield. For example if you are on an Enfield Line train that doesn't go to Enfield. I think some of the surrounding area may be more helpful like the Lea Valley Line, or Marshlands Line. Admittedly this line is probably an outlier on the network as it has 3 destinations, and fast and slow services.

 

[SeagullsoverLondon]

See the pedant in me wouldn't want to see it named the Enfield Line as it goes to two different destinations, calling it a destination as the name of the line would indicate to first time users that all trains go to Enfield. For example if you are on an Enfield Line train that doesn't go to Enfield. I think some of the surrounding area may be more helpful like the Lea Valley Line, or Marshlands Line. Admittedly this line is probably an outlier on the network as it has 3 destinations, and fast and slow services.

Ah, but where the split occurs the train still stops in Enfield (Southbury just needs to be renamed Enfield East) and we're sorted.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Unbelievable. Lefties getting their way again.

You're right, of course.

I mean, we could have had a blue coloured one called the Thatcher Line and a red one called 'Blooded Male Line' (geddit? HONK!) but then a bit more thought would be needed for the others. We could do something Royal to commemorate a long serving Monarch maybe? The Victoria. Or maybe The Elizabeth? No, hang on, that's going to be problematic. I know, we could celebrate the will of the people for the other three. Start with the Brexit line which would be sort of vomit coloured and would link closely to a white line (can't see a problem with that) to represent the rest of the Union flag not already covered, called Taking Back Control line. Sounds snappy, right? Not 100% accurate but what is in this post truth world? And then the Huge Line as in the huge line you now have to stand in when you travel anywhere in Europe. Geddit? HONK!

 

[The Clamp]

This reminds me of those Chinese signs in hotels, lifts, bathrooms etc.

Where they try to sound appealing to British people but they have such a skewed idea of what being British is, they get it all wrong.

However, it will make zero difference to my life. They can name them after notorious dictators from history for all I care.

 

[GT49er]

Is this a wind up, or did they really pay a firm of wealthy PR consultant to overcharge them massively to come up with this?

 

[Brovion]

"Incoming!"

Its not the worst idea to rename them, I imagine people will be angry about it for some reason because Sadiq Khan came up with it or something. I don't actually think the names are THAT helpful, they should have been renamed as the Overground as having all one colour is confusing to some, but I think more geographical based names would have been more helpful. I don't know how people are meant to better navigate the network now its called the 'mildmay line' rather than the 'North London Line'. The colour changes are good however.

Yeah, tend to agree. I have absolutely no objection to the names on any political/'woke' basis, but I do feel it might have been more helpful if they had made them, where possible more geographically relevant. The older names: Bakerloo, Northern, Central, Circle, etc at least give you a clue as to where you're going; anyone on the Lioness line hoping to get to London Zoo will probably be disappointed. (And I always liked the unofficial name of the Bedpan line for Bedford to St Pancras!)

Mind you we've been here before, and not just with the somewhat-stupid name of 'Elizabeth line' for Crossrail. When the Victoria line opened in 1968 my Dad said how stupid it was to be named after a dead monarch! A point he made loudly for many years.

 

[jackalbion]

"Incoming!"

Yeah, tend to agree. I have absolutely no objection to the names on any political/'woke' basis, but I do feel it might have been more helpful if they had made them, where possible more geographically relevant. The older names: Bakerloo, Northern, Central, Circle, etc at least give you a clue as to where you're going; anyone on the Lioness line hoping to get to London Zoo will probably be disappointed. (And I always liked the unofficial name of the Bedpan line for Bedford to St Pancras!)

Mind you we've been here before, and not just with the somewhat-stupid name of 'Elizabeth line' for Crossrail. When the Victoria line opened in 1968 my Dad said how stupid it was to be named after a dead monarch! A point he made loudly for many years.

Oh the Elizabeth Line debate . Disappointed they never officially called the Waterloo and City line The Drain.

 

[Bry Nylon]

How about the Southgate Line? It terminates two stops short of the intended destination and you have to walk home disappointed.

 

[Somethingdean]

what's next ?? Livingstone Leftie Luvvie line?
Where's the Leaving Europe and Reclaiming our Sauvignonty line??

 

[Guinness Boy]

You're right, of course.

I mean, we could have had a blue coloured one called the Thatcher Line and a red one called 'Blooded Male Line' (geddit? HONK!) but then a bit more thought would be needed for the others. We could do something Royal to commemorate a long serving Monarch maybe? The Victoria. Or maybe The Elizabeth? No, hang on, that's going to be problematic. I know, we could celebrate the will of the people for the other three. Start with the Brexit line which would be sort of vomit coloured and would link closely to a white line (can't see a problem with that) to represent the rest of the Union flag not already covered, called Taking Back Control line. Sounds snappy, right? Not 100% accurate but what is in this post truth world? And then the Huge Line as in the huge line you now have to stand in when you travel anywhere in Europe. Geddit? HONK!

what's next ?? Livingstone Leftie Luvvie line?
Where's the Leaving Europe and Reclaiming our Sauvignonty line??

I probably over thought it to be fair.

We could just name it after five heroes of the last 14 years who have ceaselessly worked to save us from all this wokeness, I'll propose:

Party Lies (bright yellow, messy), Lettuce (green), Hopeless (brown) (this could spend most of the day travelling pointlessly while making a dim sound), Jungle Celebrity (just the ITV logo) and Shitler (a badly drawn swastika).

 

[Wozza]

Underground lines have always had stupid names made up of portmanteaus (Bakerloo), random stations that are on more than one line (Piccadilly), and people's literal names (Victoria and Lizzy).

'People'.

 

[Beanstalk]

'People'.

Yes, royalty are still just people I'm afraid. Personally, I'd much prefer to board the Lioness Line to the Andrew Line anyway.

My point is more that there is no discernible geographical reasoning for the Elizabeth Line being given that name to help commuters navigate the Underground. It's as useful as calling a line the Liberty Line. So if we're willing to accept the Elizabeth Line as a legitimate name then why is the Weaver Line an issue?

 

[sparkie]

Where is the Tubey McTubeface line ?

 

[portslade seagull]

As Catherine Tates Nan character would say ' what a load of bollocks '

 

[Gabbiano]

Some of these are just silly - Romford to Upminster is the Liberty Line? What liberation can be found in Romford?

I like the Windrush line, seems apt for a line running through Brixton, Peckham, Hackney etc.

But really it's all a storm in a teacup - why name them like tube lines when they aren't tube lines? Line A, B, C and colour differentiation would do the job well enough.

 

[Eeyore]

In all honesty, the only one I really like is the Windrush. I think that's a great name.

Suffragette seems okay, but the others aren't so striking for me.

The Lioness is very lame. I can see what they are trying to do, but I think a single Euro victory reminder could have been replaced with something more powerful.

Shame there isn't a cricket one in there. But I would say that, wouldn't I ?

 

[jackalbion]

'People'.

That famous Person, Bakerloo or Waterloo & City.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

I feel a new Mornington Crescent game coming on .....

 

[jackalbion]

Yes, royalty are still just people I'm afraid. Personally, I'd much prefer to board the Lioness Line to the Andrew Line anyway.

My point is more that there is no discernible geographical reasoning for the Elizabeth Line being given that name to help commuters navigate the Underground. It's as useful as calling a line the Liberty Line. So if we're willing to accept the Elizabeth Line as a legitimate name then why is the Weaver Line an issue?

Weaver line is the best name out of the lot IMO. Think the Lioness line is a bit silly, and the suffragette line.