Lock Me Up or Let Me Out? Which side of the debate are you?

[jonny.rainbow]

The government and the media have finally managed to turn this debate into simple tribal politics which is what the Great British public do best.

So, what are you?

A Lock-Me-Upper or a Let-Me-Outer?

Do you fear the virus or want to take control of it?

 

[Solid at the back]

The semi lockdown has been eased far too soon, a better approach would of been to give a couple of weeks notice, so employers could prepare

 

[darkwolf666]

Lock me upper, but purely because if my wife catches the virus she almost certainly would die (according to stats 80% chance)...

 

[darkwolf666]

The semi lockdown has been eased far too soon, a better approach would of been to give a couple of weeks notice, so employers could prepare

There wasn’t room on the back of the fag packet to draw a detailed roadmap sketch!

 

[Is it PotG?]

It would be nice to allow the folk of the nation to use common sense, not look for loopholes and act for the greater good but as that is evidently not possible then (A).

 

[BLOCK F]

The semi lockdown has been eased far too soon, a better approach would of been to give a couple of weeks notice, so employers could prepare

I understand that, but I would hope that there has been a reasonable amount of dialogue going on between employers and employees during the lockdown and that they would be making preparations for a safe return to work once the appropriate adaptations etc. had been made within the workplace.
I am sure not everyone rushed back to work on Wednesday. My son who usually works in London but is presently working from our home received an email this week from his employer outlining the plan for an eventual return to the office. Granted, he is able to WFH, and so is not one of those who were 'encouraged' to return to work, but I am just saying that good employers will not have expected everyone to return to work on Wednesday if the workplace was not ready.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Shield the at risk - which could be done much better and let the rest get on.

There is risk in everything we do.

The damage that is being done will be worse than the virus.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Where's the option for the middle way - which is what's currently being attempted?

C4 News last night featured a report on a 30-something family man, painter and decorator, whose main 'mistake' seems to have been to go to Cheltenham Races for the Gold Cup. He's out of ICU, just taking his first horribly faltering baby steps towards recovery, will take many months of physio and occupational therapy to make him whole again. Really brought it home

 

[beorhthelm]

let people out, £100 fine for coughing.

 

[drew]

I understand that, but I would hope that there has been a reasonable amount of dialogue going on between employers and employees during the lockdown and that they would be making preparations for a safe return to work once the appropriate adaptations etc. had been made within the workplace.
I am sure not everyone rushed back to work on Wednesday. My son who usually works in London but is presently working from our home received an email this week from his employer outlining the plan for an eventual return to the office. Granted, he is able to WFH, and so is not one of those who were 'encouraged' to return to work, but I am just saying that good employers will not have expected everyone to return to work on Wednesday if the workplace was not ready.

There probably was that dialogue but then Johnson announced the return to work without publishing the guidelines which the employer had to abide by until, I believe, the day before people were due to return. As someone else suggested, they should have allowed a two week lead in time for proper preparations.

 

[beorhthelm]

The semi lockdown has been eased far too soon, a better approach would of been to give a couple of weeks notice, so employers could prepare

employers have had since 23rd of March to prepare.

 

[ManOfSussex]

employers have had since 23rd of March to prepare.

Prepare for what and how long for?

 

[RossyG]

I’m a nonentity, let me out of here.

 

[Butch Willykins]

The semi lockdown has been eased far too soon, a better approach would of been to give a couple of weeks notice, so employers could prepare

Surely an awful lot of employers were predicting the lockdown easing and so have been making adjustments in recent weeks (mine did). The news last weekend wasn’t a huge shock - we knew it was coming.

 

[golddene]

Lock me upper, but purely because if my wife catches the virus she almost certainly would die (according to stats 80% chance)...

Exactly the same reason though on a personal level due to age I would probably be at high risk of serious illness or dying too so lock me up, unless, they can come up with a two stage society whereas those who are elderly or at serious risk have a designated shopping day or out day etc when the young fit and healthy are confined to home or work, say a Tuesday or Wednesday, that way we will have some freedom and be shielded from those who can carry the infection without them getting ill etc. This would have to be strictly adhered to and monitored/testing etc. Though I'm sure there would be some from both sides of this divide who would object on personal freedom issues etc.

 

[KZNSeagull]

There probably was that dialogue but then Johnson announced the return to work without publishing the guidelines which the employer had to abide by until, I believe, the day before people were due to return. As someone else suggested, they should have allowed a two week lead in time for proper preparations.

There were already guidelines published, the ones that supermarkets etc had to abide by. I doubt that the amended ones were that different. How much lead time did supermarkets have?

 

[jonny.rainbow]

Where's the option for the middle way - which is what's currently being attempted?

C4 News last night featured a report on a 30-something family man, painter and decorator, whose main 'mistake' seems to have been to go to Cheltenham Races for the Gold Cup. He's out of ICU, just taking his first horribly faltering baby steps towards recovery, will take many months of physio and occupational therapy to make him whole again. Really brought it home

That’s not how these things work.

Red or Blue

Remoaner or Brexiteer

Cyclist or Driver

There is no middle ground in 21st debate.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

The government and the media have finally managed to turn this debate into simple tribal politics which is what the Great British public do best.

So, what are you?

A Lock-Me-Upper or a Let-Me-Outer?

Do you fear the virus or want to take control of it?

You can't take control of a virus.

"It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear! "


Luckily, the following part of the above Terminator description - "And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead!" may not always be true.

 

[Baker lite]

Do what is best for Myself and My family.


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[Barham's tash]

Lock me upper.

At risk in law relative with underlying conditions who due to very sad circumstances - she lost her son to cancer yesterday at home - who we will have to come and live with us in the aftermath or vice versa. It’s just not worth taking the chance.