[Albion] Locadia Today

[DarrenFreemansPerm]

Ironically, when our wingers/FB’s plough forward, we get ripped to shreds on the counter. Today being a great example.

I can understand CH’s caution ... at PL standard, our wide players aren’t very good in the main. We get most of our points from savvy tactics. When we think we’re good at PL football, push up, like today, Fulham and Burnley, opponents destroy us.

Agreed. I think that both of our starting full backs are primarily wing backs, they’d be far better suited in a 5-3-2. Let them push on, leave Dunk, Duffy and Burn (example) to defend. Use Stephens as a shield, Pick whichever two centre mids that look like they could offer something, put Murray up top and play AJ or Groß behind him.

 

[DarrenFreemansPerm]

Agree with this 100%. It’s our main downfall over the last 20 months.

Propper was pathetic today, head elsewhere perhaps?

 

[One Love]

The shocking thing for me is how any recruitment team can justify paying the huge sum we paid for him.

Come on, it takes about 5 minutes to realise he is not a natural athlete and therefore not Premier League material.

Seriously what were they thinking?

 

[Weststander]

Agreed. I think that both of our starting full backs are primarily wing backs, they’d be far better suited in a 5-3-2. Let them push on, leave Dunk, Duffy and Burn (example) to defend. Use Stephens as a shield, Pick whichever two centre mids that look like they could offer something, put Murray up top and play AJ or Groß behind him.

On Tuesday please.

 

[Nixonator]

The shocking thing for me is how any recruitment team can justify paying the huge sum we paid for him.

Come on, it takes about 5 minutes to realise he is not a natural athlete and therefore not Premier League material.

Seriously what were they thinking?

January panic buy.

Something we aspired to avoid this season, by signing nobody...

 

[Weststander]

Propper was pathetic today, head elsewhere perhaps?

I hope so. Crikey Ajax have declined since Cruyff and Neeskens if Propper’s the answer.

 

[Milano]

The shocking thing for me is how any recruitment team can justify paying the huge sum we paid for him.

Come on, it takes about 5 minutes to realise he is not a natural athlete and therefore not Premier League material.

Seriously what were they thinking?

He was a panic buy 15 months ago. If we stay up we need to just take the financial hit on him. He’s nowhere near PL standard.

 

[durrington gull]

Let me get this straight, he’s supposed to be a striker, but he’s been played out of position, but it’s his fault that we and he are not scoring? Seeems unfair to be honest. Collectively our wingers and midfielders have been shit, they offer nothing going forward, whether it’s Andone or Murray it doesn’t matter, they get hung out to dry.

The biggest issue with our midfield/forwards is the complete lack of pace - we must be without doubt the slowest team in the Prem

 

[DarrenFreemansPerm]

The biggest issue with our midfield/forwards is the complete lack of pace - we must be without doubt the slowest team in the Prem

Yep. We are utterly pedestrian and painfully predictable.

 

[PoG]

Feel free to start 10 more threads then. In meantime, why not start with a striker who cost £15m and scored 1 PL goal this season?

1 PL goal? Really? If you're going to criticise get your stats right.

 

[portlock seagull]

Let me get this straight, he’s supposed to be a striker, but he’s been played out of position, but it’s his fault that we and he are not scoring? Seeems unfair to be honest. Collectively our wingers and midfielders have been shit, they offer nothing going forward, whether it’s Andone or Murray it doesn’t matter, they get hung out to dry.

Yep, wingers should be creating and all that. But I think Locadia is getting off a bit too lightly with that defence. Plenty of strikers score in poor teams. Murray for example last season (and half if this!)

When has he created and scored a goal himself? Or from a corner? Free kick? Seems plenty fans prepared to excuse his poor return even now.

 

[Weststander]

The biggest issue with our midfield/forwards is the complete lack of pace - we must be without doubt the slowest team in the Prem

Perez, Almiron and Rondon all had great pace, craft and power for 90 minutes on Friday night at Leicester. Even NUFC, with Ashley, have achieved it. Doesn’t bare thinking about when they visit the Amex. Cardiff is our cup final.

 

[DarrenFreemansPerm]

Yep, wingers should be creating and all that. But I think Locadia is getting off a bit too lightly with that defence. Plenty of strikers score in poor teams. Murray for example last season (and half if this!)

When has he created and scored a goal himself? Or from a corner? Free kick? Seems plenty fans prepared to excuse his poor return even now.

Listen, I’m not going to pretend he’s a world beater, but I think you’re over egging it a bit. He created and scored a beauty against Millwall to get us back into the game, in fact, go and watch our highlights from this years cup run, we wouldn’t have got as far as we did without his assists and goals, sounds mad but it’s true.

 

[durrington gull]

Perez, Almiron and Rondon all had great pace, craft and power for 90 minutes on Friday night at Leicester. Even NUFC, with Ashley, have achieved it. Doesn’t bare thinking about when they visit the Amex. Cardiff is our cup final.

The very first attribute for any scouting team in the Prem is to identify attacking players with pace- only Izzy has that along with Bernardo, the rest are simply not quick enough, we need 2/3 new attacking players with Real pace in the summer if we’re going to compete next season in the Prem, providing we stay up!

 

[PoG]

Listen, I’m not going to pretend he’s a world beater, but I think you’re over egging it a bit. He created and scored a beauty against Millwall to get us back into the game, in fact, go and watch our highlights from this years cup run, we wouldn’t have got as far as we did without his assists and goals, sounds mad but it’s true.

Lost cause there. I'm with you, Murray did very well last season mainly because we had Groß, he's been pretty average since he's not been in the squad. I wonder how Jurgs would play feeding off him.

 

[portlock seagull]

1 PL goal? Really? If you're going to criticise get your stats right.

I forgot his Everton goal and misread Wiki. Anyway, you more than anyone gave me dogs abuse for saying he wasn't all that even though he'd scored against Arsenal. So you can do one as you've subsequently been proved wrong and embarrassed yourself. Least I called a pup early on, you're still putting up a defence after it's died of old age.

 

[Weststander]

Lost cause there. I'm with you, Murray did very well last season mainly because we had Groß, he's been pretty average since he's not been in the squad. I wonder how Jurgs would play feeding off him.

Without Gross, Muzza’s scored 11 vital PL goals this season.

 

[DarrenFreemansPerm]

The very first attribute for any scouting team in the Prem is to identify attacking players with pace- only Izzy has that along with Bernardo, the rest are simply not quick enough, we need 2/3 new attacking players with Real pace in the summer if we’re going to compete next season in the Prem, providing we stay up!

Montoya is rapid, can’t defend too well though.

 

[portlock seagull]

Listen, I’m not going to pretend he’s a world beater, but I think you’re over egging it a bit. He created and scored a beauty against Millwall to get us back into the game, in fact, go and watch our highlights from this years cup run, we wouldn’t have got as far as we did without his assists and goals, sounds mad but it’s true.

That's not in the PL!! I knew someone would cite Millwall!! Yes, it was a decent goal. But against defenders in a team battling relegation a division below. If we were in the Championship or League One he'd perhaps score bags go goals. But we're not, so it's irrelevant. As evidence, it's inadmissible as they say

 

[PoG]

Without Gross, Muzza’s scored 11 vital PL goals this season.

Fair, I retract my point. Btw I have no problems with Murray.