Liverpool

[Superphil]

Great game, great winning goal, keeps it interesting

 

[Skaville]

I've been anti-Premiershite for years, but this season seems to be something of an epic.

 

[Pat McCrotch]

Fantastic game. great last gasp goal. Well done United. stick it up the scousers.

 

[blue and white army]

Fantastic game. great last gasp goal. Well done United. stick it up the scousers.

Agreed I hate Liverpool with a passion, Scouse you've got no roof on your house

 

[SpidersLegs]

Agreed I hate Liverpool with a passion, Scouse you've got no roof on your house

Rather Liverpool win it then scumchester united. Hate Ferguson

 

[blue and white army]

Rather Liverpool win it then scumchester united. Hate Ferguson

The armchair fans would be out in there thousands

 

[GT49er]

There all a bunch of WANKERS, bloody Man United

Trouble is, they're a lot better than our bunch of wankers!

Come on Liverpool! - keep up the pressure; it'll be tough (can't see who else is likely to beat United at the moment) but you can do it!

 

[brightonmad999]

wots wrong wiv liverpool

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

lucky united

Liverpool winner in injury time.

5 minuite stoppages?
in a game united need to win?
what a fuckin coincidence
all to shut fuckin fergie up

Five minutes of AV players rolling round the floor once they were ahead

wots wrong wiv liverpool

ahhhh....all is clear now!

If you had been brought up in the 70's and 80's and had Liverpool rammed down your throat as the dog's nads every week with all the pundits and commentators crawling up their arse for a decade or more (and now all their players are commentators and 'experts' who are about as one-eyed in their view as alex_brighton) you'd understand why some of us just can't get enthused about Liverpool.

 

[seagully]

If you had been brought up in the 70's and 80's and had Liverpool rammed down your throat as the dog's nads every week with all the pundits and commentators crawling up their arse for a decade or more (and now all their players are commentators and 'experts' who are about as one-eyed in their view as alex_brighton) you'd understand why some of us just can't get enthused about Liverpool.

Very similar to being brought up in the 90s and having Utd rammed down your throat every week I suppose!

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

Fair point.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

If you had been brought up in the 70's and 80's and had Liverpool rammed down your throat as the dog's nads every week with all the pundits and commentators crawling up their arse for a decade or more (and now all their players are commentators and 'experts' who are about as one-eyed in their view as alex_brighton) you'd understand why some of us just can't get enthused about Liverpool.

Yes! This is EXACTLY why I can't stand them. Every single negative that people use nowadays to beat Man United with, applied to Liverpool in the Eighties. When I was at school, a lone Brighton supporter, in a bloody Sussex primary school, for heaven's sake, I was surrounded by kids in Liverpool shirts.

None of them had ever been to Anfield. None of them were from Merseyside. Sound familiar yet?

All this horseshit about United being favoured by referees- you clearly don't remember the 1980s then, when the chances of an opposing team being granted a penalty at Anfield were diametrically opposite to the chances of their hosts winning a highly suspect last minute spot kick. Injury time? How much would you like, Kenny/Bob/Joe?

Even now, how many pundits with Liverpool connections do we have to endure on TV? Hansen, Lawrenson, Phil Thompson, Paul Walsh, the list goes on.

I've never remotely been an Arsenal fan, but even now, twenty years later, Michael Thomas's goal for the Gooners at Anfield, in the very last minute of the very last game, depriving the bindippers of the title they thought they had a divine right to, remains one of the GREATEST footballing moments of my life.

Enjoy this clip then, Scouse-lovers
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[HH Brighton]

Yes! This is EXACTLY why I can't stand them. Every single negative that people use nowadays to beat Man United with, applied to Liverpool in the Eighties. When I was at school, a lone Brighton supporter, in a bloody Sussex primary school, for heaven's sake, I was surrounded by kids in Liverpool shirts.

None of them had ever been to Anfield. None of them were from Merseyside. Sound familiar yet?

All this horseshit about United being favoured by referees- you clearly don't remember the 1980s then, when the chances of an opposing team being granted a penalty at Anfield were diametrically opposite to the chances of their hosts winning a highly suspect last minute spot kick. Injury time? How much would you like, Kenny/Bob/Joe?

Even now, how many pundits with Liverpool connections do we have to endure on TV? Hansen, Lawrenson, Phil Thompson, Paul Walsh, the list goes on.

I've never remotely been an Arsenal fan, but even now, twenty years later, Michael Thomas's goal for the Gooners at Anfield, in the very last minute of the very last game, depriving the bindippers of the title they thought they had a divine right to, remains one of the GREATEST footballing moments of my life.

Enjoy this clip then, Scouse-lovers
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The difference being that Liverpool managed to win things with dignity, the managers were honest and the players had respect. The United and Arsenal years are remembered for the complete opposite.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

The difference being that Liverpool managed to win things with dignity, the managers were honest and the players had respect. The United and Arsenal years are remembered for the complete opposite.

Hmmm, I'm not sure if that's a case of people looking back at the "old days" with rose tinted spectacles to be honest. Plenty of Liverpool players would quite happily chuck themselves to the ground if they thought it would get them somewhere- Ian Rush springs to mind.

I suspect the other element at play here is that football as a whole- not just Man United or Liverpool- has changed immeasurably since that point. If Ian Rush did dive to win a penalty, then in all likelihood only a couple of cameras would have seen it, and it would have been on MOTD for a couple of minutes at most. And then forgotten about. I refuse to succumb to the myth that Liverpool were some kind of sporting example, to be held up for the rest of us to aspire to.

Any football controversy these days is captured on at least twenty Sky cameras and discussed endlessly on MOTD, Sky, in newspapers and so on, thus magnifying the impact thousands of times. I don't think a lack of sportsmanship is any more a United issue than any other team. Off the top of my head I can think of outrageous dives this season from Steven Gerrard, Steven Taylor of Newcastle, appalling tackles from countless players, whining to the media from Ferguson, Benitez, Allardyce, Wenger, Redknapp and so on. Every team does it, so maybe football as a whole is different to what it was twenty years ago, not just Man United.

 

[HH Brighton]

Hmmm, I'm not sure if that's a case of people looking back at the "old days" with rose tinted spectacles to be honest. Plenty of Liverpool players would quite happily chuck themselves to the ground if they thought it would get them somewhere- Ian Rush springs to mind.

I suspect the other element at play here is that football as a whole- not just Man United or Liverpool- has changed immeasurably since that point. If Ian Rush did dive to win a penalty, then in all likelihood only a couple of cameras would have seen it, and it would have been on MOTD for a couple of minutes at most. And then forgotten about. I refuse to succumb to the myth that Liverpool were some kind of sporting example, to be held up for the rest of us to aspire to.

Any football controversy these days is captured on at least twenty Sky cameras and discussed endlessly on MOTD, Sky, in newspapers and so on, thus magnifying the impact thousands of times. I don't think a lack of sportsmanship is any more a United issue than any other team. Off the top of my head I can think of outrageous dives this season from Steven Gerrard, Steven Taylor of Newcastle, appalling tackles from countless players, whining to the media from Ferguson, Benitez, Allardyce, Wenger, Redknapp and so on. Every team does it, so maybe football as a whole is different to what it was twenty years ago, not just Man United.

No rose tinted specs for me. I accept football has moved on from those days but Liverpool were in fact a shining example of sporting teams in this country. Some people like yourself may say that you hated Liverpool the the same way as United are hated now but Liverpool never generated the same mass disapproval that has stuck with them for years. The reason being is the public respected what Liverpool done an the manner which they went about it, something that Ferguson and Venger have never been able to do. This will never change as its in Man Utd make up to be this way you only have to look at Wayne Rooney’s recent out burts about hating Liverpool. Even if you thought it you wouldn’t publicly air it on MUTV it just show’s a lack of respect and class.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

No rose tinted specs for me. I accept football has moved on from those days but Liverpool were in fact a shining example of sporting teams in this country. Some people like yourself may say that you hated Liverpool the the same way as United are hated now but Liverpool never generated the same mass disapproval that has stuck with them for years. The reason being is the public respected what Liverpool done an the manner which they went about it, something that Ferguson and Venger have never been able to do. This will never change as its in Man Utd make up to be this way you only have to look at Wayne Rooney’s recent out burts about hating Liverpool. Even if you thought it you wouldn’t publicly air it on MUTV it just show’s a lack of respect and class.

Souness was a thug. He could play of course. But he was a thug. As was McMahon. Liverpool always had a thug in their side. And Dalgleish moaned continually.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

I've never remotely been an Arsenal fan, but even now, twenty years later, Michael Thomas's goal for the Gooners at Anfield, in the very last minute of the very last game, depriving the bindippers of the title they thought they had a divine right to, remains one of the GREATEST footballing moments of my life.

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Same here. And not because it was against Liverpool. It was because the old order was over-turned. At least for that season. And to do it in the last minute - when the Liverpool players had already started the winks and pats of victors. It was an amazing end to the season.

 

[British Bulldog]

The difference being that Liverpool managed to win things with dignity,

Shame they could'nt lose with dignity as well, I rememeber at the end of that game an Arsenal player went up shake John Alldridge's hand and he just turned and walked away without shaking it.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Shame they could'nt lose with dignity as well, I rememeber at the end of that game an Arsenal player went up shake John Alldridge's hand and he just turned and walked away without shaking it.

Exactly. Liverpool were no different to United now, or Arsenal now. Except their manager didn't moan to the press as much as Fergie or Wenger do because referees rarely gave Liverpool anything to complain about.

Oh...and for those who suggested that once again United have benefited from generous referees allowing them copious amounts of injury time? As per today's Guardian sports section, if you took away the injury time goals scored by the Scousers this season, they would currently be third in the table, eight points worse off. They have scored injury time winners against Middlesbrough (Gerrard 90+2), Man City (Kuyt 90+1), Portsmouth (Torres 90+3) and now Fulham (Benayoun 90+2).

So that argument doesn't really stack up, does it?

 

[Acker79]

Five minutes of AV players rolling round the floor once they were ahead

3 minutes of villa players rolling around.

Plus 4 substitutions.