[Football] Liverpool and Manchester United lead ‘European League’ breakout league idea

[Stato]

https://www.brightonandhovealbion.com/news/2111936/club-statement-on-plans-for-european-super-league

Well said...

"Off the pitch, we remain custodians of our clubs on behalf of past, present and future generations of fans and the communities we all represent. This is a responsibility we believe we must all take very seriously."

Tony gets it. Tony has always got it.

 

[Napper]

I disagree with everything you say.

thats fine.

We'll see how it plays out.

I'd love them to get kicked out the league. Just cant see it as the league need them. The statement later may tell us more

 

[tronnogull]

They have already said new league is the priority and would use second string players for the domestic league.

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Doesn't the Premier League still have a rule that a full strength side has to be played in any Prem game ? If that rule still exists they seem to have turned a little bit of a blind eye to it. However, it could be a very strong hammer if the six clubs clearly break the rule.

 

[KeegansHairPiece]

when this is forgotten and they have a larer slice of the pie.

They should know that if this ever rears its head again then they get expelled.

Unfortunately , they have flexed muscles and shown they have the power.

The owners are probably all in another country or on their yachts watching this sh1t storm with a smile. It's exactly as they want.

They hold the power

What concessions have been made?

 

[Springal]

Doesn't the Premier League still have a rule that a full strength side has to be played in any Prem game ? If that rule still exists they seem to have turned a little bit of a blind eye to it. However, it could be a very strong hammer if the six clubs clearly break the rule.

Think that amounts to changes from or previous game. Otherwise how do you determine strongest ? We often have more expensive players on our bench than starting nowadays!

Either way PL rules forbid clubs playing in in sanctioned competitions

 

[Normal Rob]

Doesn't the Premier League still have a rule that a full strength side has to be played in any Prem game ? If that rule still exists they seem to have turned a little bit of a blind eye to it. However, it could be a very strong hammer if the six clubs clearly break the rule.

It's no hammer at all. It would be the decision of the club doctor if a player is fit to play. Said club doctor will have a metaphorical gun to his head.

 

[Napper]

What concessions have been made?

The new CL format so far is a result of previous threats.

More to come I suspect

 

[Triggaaar]

thats fine.

We'll see how it plays out.

Agreed. Let's both hope your fears are not realised.

 

[stewart12]

has the meeting of "the other 14" happened yet?

 

[Gwylan]

Very much think that all areas of the globe have much to learn and consider from other parts of the globe. However the figures show that the Uk has less to learn from the USA about sport than the USA has to learn from the UK. Look at the international, global success that is football. Even our lesser games such as cricket are international hits in some areas of the world such as South Asia. American sports hardly figure outside of the USA. There is a reason for that.

And yet Americans think the opposite. They definitely think that 'soccer' would be improved by Americanisation . But, as you say, the facts don't seem to bear this out

 

[KeegansHairPiece]

Very much think that all areas of the globe have much to learn and consider from other parts of the globe. However the figures show that the Uk has less to learn from the USA about sport than the USA has to learn from the UK. Look at the international, global success that is football. Even our lesser games such as cricket are international hits in some areas of the world such as South Asia. American sports hardly figure outside of the USA. There is a reason for that.

Imperialism?

 

[B-right-on]

I was looking at a few US Twitter feeds last night and there were quite a few comments on how the ESL is a chance to make "soccer more exciting". Banning 0-0 draws was high on the list; making goals bigger and the abolition of offsides were also mentioned. There were also suggestions for more breaks in play (I don't think anyone wanted this but there was a feeling that this was inevitable).

And there was a definite desire to see more games at US peak time. I'm not sure whether that meant games kicking off at 1.00 in the morning or more games in the US.

I'm sure there's an element of truth underlying all these ideas. I suspect that football in the ESL will, eventually, be very different from the game we know now

Jesus. They just don't get it do they? Ban 0-0s and bigger goals?

 

[Stockholm Syndrome]

And so it begins.

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-city-have-super-league-doubts-says-executive

 

[Charity Shield 1910]

Imperialism?

The British Empire developed from a trading enterprise and was around long before cricket or football was taken to other areas of the globe. More on point is that the USA has shaped the post World War 2 era. Travelling around the world shows you that. But none of their sports have been as successful as football. Even in Japan, where a post war generation tried to embrace all things Amercican, including baseball, have essentially said, no thanks, prefer football. Football counts its fans in the billions of people, American football in the few hundred million and rarely features anywhere outside of the US (Cuba and Japan being exceptions). Even cricket is a game with a fan base three, maybe four times the size of the following for American sports. The product simply is not as good.

 

[Official Old Man]

So many questions still.
If it goes ahead but the 6 stay in the EPL will the weekend games be scheduled around their mid week games?
Sky, BBC & BT pundits have all slammed the idea. What happens when they get offered a job?
I don't think current players should be banned from internationas but future signings should be.
Are we playing to avoid non existent relegation? They may need to add 6 clubs.

 

[Springal]

And so it begins.

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-city-have-super-league-doubts-says-executive

They were dragged along by fear of missing out. So were always 50/50 in my opinion.

 

[Baldseagull]

This is a little insulting to a lot of the international fans. There were messages on the Guardian yesterday from fans of these teams in Asia saying that they don't want this either. A lot of international fans of these teams are drawn to the game by history, romance and passion. When choosing a team to support, many want to align themselves with the European fans as much as the club's name. Nobody would watch televised football from an empty stadium, unless there was no other option. If international fans are forced to choose between watching Liverpool without the Kop end, or a full Everton ground they'll drop the former like a hot brick. The owners fail to understand that they don't own the history, they don't own the fans and they don't own the passion. Football only matters because we have all conspired between us to make it matter. Without local fans, these clubs are nothing and will very quickly die.

This. The new fans want to be part of the Family, if they know that the "legacy" fans view it as an assault on the game and on their clubs by the owners, they will be less interested. I also wonder about the attraction of sponsors like Nike, if it creates a backlash against brands that sponsor these clubs, and players, by European consumers. There is going to be a war for hearts and minds, personally I think the PL, FIFA, and UEFA will win. The only route back for the clubs should be with a change in ownership, the toughest part is getting the supporters of the six to agree with sanctions that hurt their club effectively, they need to focus on the fact that their club has been taken over by Pirates.

 

[The Fifth Column]

74 year old ESL President, Florentino Perez, claiming that the ESL will save football! This is due to his expertise in what young people like and it seems he thinks young people are "no longer interested in football" because of "a lot of poor quality games". Not about money, after all, it's because all young kids want to watch Barcelona v Man Utd each week... Not really true though is it, my two lads would rather watch Brighton v Stevenage over any ESL fixture because that's what real football fans do.

He claimed 40% of young people are not interested in football and Real Madrid have lost 400m euros (£344m) because of the impact of the pandemic.

"When you don't have any income other than from television, you have to find a solution to make more attractive matches that fans all over the world can watch with all of the big clubs," said Perez.

"Young people are no longer interested in football. They have other platforms on which to distract themselves.

"We could get back some of the money we lost because of the pandemic. We have to raise more money organising more competitive games."

But lets get one thing crystal clear, this is about engaging young people into watching football and not about trying to replace lost revenues.

Arrogance of a magnitude not seen since Blatter was FIFA president.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

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[Neville's Breakfast]

Imperialism?

That reminds me of when I was working in Singapore. One of the IT blokes was Indian and absolutely loved his cricket. He once thanked me for the British Empire as it gave cricket to India I said no worries and took the credit obviously.