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[TV] Little Britain Pulled from IPlayer



Sorrel

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Jul 5, 2003
2,941
Back in East Sussex
I don't mind the use of warnings before programmes; look what they did for the iPlayer repeats of some 1960s David Attenborough programmes about Australia where he says several things about cultures on the basis of their "race": iPlayer.png

I would rather we had warnings like this on old programmes and then left it to the viewer to determine their opinion, rather than remove them entirely. The problem seems to be that for old comedies there is a fear that people might find them funny - and of course that would not do. Serious programmes are exempt from that problem and so get a pass to still be shown.

Maybe they could eventually market the comedies as cultural artefacts rather than TV programmes, as we probably would with old recordings of musical hall entertainment, if we had it with sounds and vision.
 




Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
17,773
Fiveways
It's not been removed (even if it is temporary) because it's a film about the civil war, or a film about slavery. It's because of the inaccurate portrayal - the idea that the south weren't really fighting to keep slavery (when that was in many of the declarations of war), that the people fighting against slavery and in defence of a united states were the bad people, that slavery was a romantic idea and the slaves loved it.


https://www.theguardian.com/film/20...e-with-the-wind-should-be-banned-from-cinemas (from 2015)



https://eu.commercialappeal.com/sto...taking-stock-controversial-classic/603013001/ (orignally 2017 going by the url, but updated december 2019)

For it to be comparable for your ww2 film ban, we'd be banning films that suggest the Nazis were the good guys, and the Jewish people were desperate to go to Auschwitz.

Interesting comments, and I think I agree with your position but, as you mention this, what of Inglourious Basterds? I appreciate that it's hardly portraying Nazis in a positive light, but it's clearly historically inaccurate. Ditto with Django Unchained which, I understand, is an infrequent acquaintance Hollywood has had with the US' slave past (Gone With the Wind notwithstanding), and was released not too far apart from 12 Years a Slave, which was of a vastly different standpoint and perspective.
 


Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
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Fiveways
I can remember recent BBC coverage of COVID19 in China where they highlighted the restrictions on information available to the general public as an example of how the Chinese state treated its citizens like children.

It’s interesting how many on this thread are comfortable with such a position in the U.K. on evidence, this must be exactly the same group that couldn’t understand the “stay alert” message.

You and the fairy: a marriage made in heaven. You deserve each other.
 


Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
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Fiveways
This goes to show the restraint of a nations tolerance, when a silent majority allows itself to be ruled by a shouty,thuggish, intolerant minority of stroppy hard line activists.


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[MENTION=35289]Baker lite[/MENTION], silently representing the majority on NSC for years :lolol:
 






Acker79

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Nov 15, 2008
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Brighton
Interesting comments, and I think I agree with your position but, as you mention this, what of Inglourious Basterds? I appreciate that it's hardly portraying Nazis in a positive light, but it's clearly historically inaccurate. Ditto with Django Unchained which, I understand, is an infrequent acquaintance Hollywood has had with the US' slave past (Gone With the Wind notwithstanding), and was released not too far apart from 12 Years a Slave, which was of a vastly different standpoint and perspective.

I don't think I'd miss them if they were taken away!

I think you already answer the your own question. Inglourious is inaccurate, but as you say, it doesn't portray the side the wanted to wipe out races and take over other free countries as the good guys fighting a noble cause. Django doesn't suggest the southern slave owners were kind owners who had the respect of and peaceful coexistence with slaves. If the only problem with GwtW was that they showed one side using machine guns, no one would be calling for it to be banned. It's that positive light thing that is the reason people have an issue with it.

Looking back at my post, I see I should have made that clearer when I said it was about the inaccuracy - it was the nature of the inaccuracy rather than simply being inaccurate.
 


BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
18,201
Citizens of Earth; "Stop murdering black people"!!!

BBC; "uhmm, hmmm, uhhmm, could take some unfunny people off our back catalogue, how's that"?
This was my thought. Is there any evidence that withdrawing this kind of stuff from the public eye makes any difference to racism?

If not what's the point?

I never liked it and don't have access b to iPlayer so it really doesn't affect me either way.

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Theatre of Trees

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Jul 5, 2003
7,838
TQ2905
I think removing Litle Britain is a shame and wrong.

Personally I liked Ting Tong and Bubbles DeVere. Even now some of their catchphrases are memorable and still heard, i.e computer says no, only gay in the village, it's one of those shows like Harry Enfield, The Fast Show, Catherine Tate that are classic British character sketch comedies and deserve to be around.

The difference between Harry Enfield, Fast Show with Little Britainwas the writers and performers of the former genuinely liked the characters they created and thus you cared about them. Little Britain, on the other hand, seemed to hate theirs and thus none of them had any redeeming featuresmeaning you laughed at them rather than with them
 






Iggle Piggle

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Sep 3, 2010
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The difference between Harry Enfield, Fast Show with Little Britainwas the writers and performers of the former genuinely liked the characters they created and thus you cared about them. Little Britain, on the other hand, seemed to hate theirs and thus none of them had any redeeming featuresmeaning you laughed at them rather than with them

The woman who no-one listens to was based on Arabella Weir's personal experience in the Fast Show, the joke obviously being on the men who don't listen.There was a recent spat where people were trying to highlight this as an example "90's sexist TV"
 


Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
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Fiveways
The difference between Harry Enfield, Fast Show with Little Britainwas the writers and performers of the former genuinely liked the characters they created and thus you cared about them. Little Britain, on the other hand, seemed to hate theirs and thus none of them had any redeeming featuresmeaning you laughed at them rather than with them

Yes, you're right on this. LB was cruel but, that said, Matt Lucas has done some really funny things. His impression of Jamie Oliver, for one. And I can't get his current Boris Johnson out of my head:

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...sons-speech-to-the-nation-goes-viral-11986438
 




sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
17,965
town full of eejits
I sometimes enjoyed but mostly cringed at Little Britain. I just think it was generally poor repetitive comedy.

I wouldn't say it was racist, but they were very poor caricatures.

I think I'm saying that I'm pleased it's gone because it was a bit rubbish.

My problem is that I quite like Mrs Brown's Boys...


*runs*

your credo meter just hit - 300
 


Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
31,264
The difference between Harry Enfield, Fast Show with Little Britainwas the writers and performers of the former genuinely liked the characters they created and thus you cared about them. Little Britain, on the other hand, seemed to hate theirs and thus none of them had any redeeming features meaning you laughed at them rather than with them

I bet David Walliams DREAMS of being Emily Howard, sashaying up and down the promenade exclaiming "I am a LADY!"
 








crodonilson

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Jan 17, 2005
14,062
Lyme Regis
Paw Patrol in grave danger for only portraying police departments in a positive light as heroes who save the day. Trending on Twitter, time to delete my profile in there, can't take any more of this absolute nonsense.
 


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