Lingard in full England squad

[joeinbrighton]

Still think Defoe has got it in him. One of those players who England managers don't seem to like (same as Crouch) but who are goal scorers.

Defoe being 34 will be a factor too. Crouch rarely gets a start for Stoke these days either.

 

[joeinbrighton]

That is an awful squad. It's Malta and Slovenia ffs, with respect to them let's blood some youngsters or try out the likes of Dann and Shawcross. What's the point in returning to old plodders like Jagielka and Johnson.

Shawcross was tried before. The night Zlatan Ibrahimovic scored 4 goals against England. He currently plays for the team 19th in the Premier League with a goal difference of -11. That will be why he's not in the squad.

Qualifying matches are not times for experimentation. That's what you use friendlies for.

 

[spring hall convert]

Lost count of the times I've said on here Lingard was a fine player when he was with us. Had this knack of finding space when there wasn't any and extremely intelligent running off the ball. So obviously well coached.

But you had to actually watch him to see that.

Whether I'm happy about him being in an England side is another matter though.

Just thought this was worth a bounce. Even me as one of his staunchest supporters on here was skeptical about him being in the England side. What does everyone think now?

 

[Marshy]

Just thought this was worth a bounce. Even me as one of his staunchest supporters on here was skeptical about him being in the England side. What does everyone think now?

Yeah his movement was always great even when with us, as decent as he was for us I didn't see him breaking into the Utd side though, so fair play to him.

 

[Easy 10]

That was a sensational goal yesterday. He does seem to have that in his locker for the big occasion - remember that glorious strike against the filth in the FA Cup Final. He was bang average for us, but he's come on leaps and bounds these last couple of years at Utd, and is well worth his place in the squad now IMO.

 

[spring hall convert]

Yeah his movement was always great even when with us, as decent as he was for us I didn't see him breaking into the Utd side though, so fair play to him.

Seems to be his M.O. breaking into teams and making himself indispensable.

I've definitely noticed post-Albion, there's a higher than average number of times I think 'Why's no one marking Lingard?' I can only assume this is related to his exceptional off the ball running. I would argue that the pure possession style that we were playing at the time we had him didn't suit him at all, he didn't really get the space to take up dangerous positions as he appears to be doing for England at the moment.

 

[spring hall convert]

That was a sensational goal yesterday. He does seem to have that in his locker for the big occasion - remember that glorious strike against the filth in the FA Cup Final. He was bang average for us, but he's come on leaps and bounds these last couple of years at Utd, and is well worth his place in the squad now IMO.

I felt (and I'm prepared for the flaming here) that you didn't really get an appreciation for what he did unless you really watched him. My position at that time in ESU was very helpful for that, I'm not sure I would have noticed much had I been in the North.

No doubt he has improved but the things he did well with us remain the things he does well now at a higher standard.

 

[lawros left foot]

I felt (and I'm prepared for the flaming here) that you didn't really get an appreciation for what he did unless you really watched him. My position at that time in ESU was very helpful for that, I'm not sure I would have noticed much had I been in the North.

No doubt he has improved but the things he did well with us remain the things he does well now at a higher standard.

And playing with better players makes a huge difference to his type of player. My son and I both watched him play for us, the same games and from the same part of the ground. I raved about him, thought he was excellent, most of the time for us, my son thought he was a waste of space, and we should have sent him back to Manchester.
Different opinions.

 

[Sheebo]

He was good for us and has developed well. BHA is playing a part in England's World Cup success - great isn't it

 

[Simster]

That was a sensational goal yesterday. He does seem to have that in his locker for the big occasion - remember that glorious strike against the filth in the FA Cup Final. He was bang average for us, but he's come on leaps and bounds these last couple of years at Utd, and is well worth his place in the squad now IMO.

I think he was better than "bang average" with us. As has been said many times ( [MENTION=14921]spring hall convert[/MENTION] on here, but many others elsewhere) his movement off the ball was superb with us. His finishing wasn't all that and he needed to beef up because he wasn't strong enough on the ball. Personally, I always wondered about his finishing, but he seems to have addressed that.

 

[narly101]

I thought he was MoM yesterday. His movement off the ball was genius at times, and his work rate despite the amount of kicks he received was second to none.

Or was that my albion tinted specs?

 

[spring hall convert]

I thought he was MoM yesterday. His movement off the ball was genius at times, and his work rate despite the amount of kicks he received was second to none.

Or was that my albion tinted specs?

He was only the width of a post and a poor finish away from being in the reckoning for the Tunisia game as well imo.