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Lib/Dems win Richmond Park.



TimWatt

Active member
Feb 13, 2011
166
Richmond
Richmond has by tradition been a base for liberal party support - but it was always a marginal constituency at best as it's not all Richmond Green (RIP Sir Dickie). It also has a continual changing population being a commuter belt area, especially young people, in recent time aspirational city types tending to be Tory voters.
Being by Heathrow (and a lovely place) it's also very cosmopolitan - meaning that although Heathrow pollution and noise is a big issue, the hostile threats to these people and their friends and neighbours of Brexit is far bigger right now.
 








WonderingSoton

New member
Dec 3, 2014
287
Exactly. It's not a shock because the LibDems poured resources into a winnable seat. But some people on here are talking as if it was a gimme when it clearly wasn't because Richmond is NOT natural LibDem territory.

I'm delighted by this result but I'd be interested to see how they might do in a seat that is very 50-50 pro/anti brexit. That would be a far better indication of the public strength of feeling on the issue.

Errm, it most definitely IS Lib Dem territory, it's a liberal area that has been held by LDs before as recently as 2014...
 








Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,952
Surrey
Errm, it most definitely IS Lib Dem territory, it's a liberal area that has been held by LDs before as recently as 2014...

Yes, yes. I KNOW that now. Is anyone else going to point out my mistake or do others simply read the entire thread before posting?
 


Tony Towner's Fridge

Well-known member
Aug 22, 2003
5,545
GLASGOW,SCOTLAND,UK
Two interesting points to me.

First : Labour polled a paltry 1500 votes

Second : The Monster Raving Looney party candidate was called Howling Laud Hope and he polled 184 votes

both great IMHO

TNBA

TTF
 




n1 gull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
4,639
Hurstpierpoint
Yes, yes. I KNOW that now. Is anyone else going to point out my mistake or do others simply read the entire thread before posting?

Not being funny but it is definitely a Liberal area - I hope this helps?
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
First evidence that a liberal alliance works, kudos to our Lucas. It's a shame that Labour are too self important to get their head around this as it's the only way to beat the right at the moment.

Maybe Labour understand going down the 'ignore the majority democratic vote' path adopted by the Lib Dem's (frightfully liberal) would most likely be catastrophic for them in their Northern Brexit voting heartlands as well as hardening and probably increasing support for the right.

150+ seat Tory /UKIP majority in the House of Commons anyone?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/anti-brexit-parties-would-win-150-fewer-seats-than-pro-leave-par/

https://medium.com/@chrishanretty/t...r-constituencies-vote-283c85cd20e1#.s1rtv7jsw

https://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisapple...ext-election?utm_term=.cum7k4ZxZv#.kswQMVzNzq
 






Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,827
Uffern
Errm, it most definitely IS Lib Dem territory, it's a liberal area that has been held by LDs before as recently as 2014...

No, it was Conservative in 2014.

While it's true that Lib Dems won three elections between 1997 and 2005, it's slightly misleading to say it's LibDem territory. That's when the Tories were in a bit of a state and lost all sorts of solid Tory seats (like Lewes for example). Before 1997, Richmond (in its various guises) had been a Conservative seat since the 19th century
 


FREDBINNEY

Banned
Dec 11, 2009
317
Exactly. It's not a shock because the LibDems poured resources into a winnable seat. But some people on here are talking as if it was a gimme when it clearly wasn't because Richmond is NOT natural LibDem territory.

I'm delighted by this result but I'd be interested to see how they might do in a seat that is very 50-50 pro/anti brexit. That would be a far better indication of the public strength of feeling on the issue.
It most certainly IS lib dem territory !!
 








heathgate

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Apr 13, 2015
3,858
Ah ok, fair enough. Nevertheless, overturning a 22,000 majority is relevant IMO.
No Conservative candidate, upset that Zach G jumped ship showing party disloyalty, nobody wanted to vote Labour... no Ukip or Green alternative..... Lib Dems next choice in list for protest vote.

Put a Con candidate in there next time and it will swing back.

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Seagull27

Well-known member
Feb 7, 2011
3,368
Bristol
I don't think this result is that significant in terms of Brexit, it won't change much.

However, it could have a few Tory MPs worried, in the seats that swung from lib dem to tory in 2015. I imagine a lot of voters who float between these two parties may be a bit miffed at the recent snooping laws brought in. A few by-elections in some of these areas could have the Tory majority looking extremely fragile.

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alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
No Conservative candidate, upset that Zach G jumped ship showing party disloyalty, nobody wanted to vote Labour... no Ukip or Green alternative..... Lib Dems next choice in list for protest vote.

Put a Con candidate in there next time and it will swing back.

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Just look at the hampsteads on her !! Looks like bugs bunny!
 




neilbard

Hedging up
Oct 8, 2013
6,280
And it's also full of people who have the ability to think things through properly and make the most sensible decisions.
It's just a shame that the majority of the rest of the country was unable to do this.

****!
 


SAC

Well-known member
May 21, 2014
2,631
No Conservative candidate, upset that Zach G jumped ship showing party disloyalty, nobody wanted to vote Labour... no Ukip or Green alternative..... Lib Dems next choice in list for protest vote.

Put a Con candidate in there next time and it will swing back.

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The Tories should have fielded their own candidate, not to do so was an insult to the electorate.
 


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