[Other Sport] Lewis Hamilton the greatest living British sportsman?

[yxee]

One example perhaps, championing the BLM movement which is very admirable, but a little flawed when he takes money from Hugo Boss who famously made all the Nazi uniforms, there’s no doubt he could survive without the HB sponsorship, how good would it have been if he’d severed the deal as part of his protest?

Do you have anything involving companies that have done something wrong... this century?

 

[Bold Seagull]

Sorry we will have to agree to differ on this one, thank god for democracy, all of us are flawed but I think some of the things he comes out with don’t do him him any favours, and that is in the last couple of years.

One example perhaps, championing the BLM movement which is very admirable, but a little flawed when he takes money from Hugo Boss who famously made all the Nazi uniforms, there’s no doubt he could survive without the HB sponsorship, how good would it have been if he’d severed the deal as part of his protest?

He also drives a Mercedes. You may as well conclude any German manufacturer that existed pre WWII and survived beyond it probably had some link with the Nazi regime at some point. It’s amazing what people latch onto.

 

[zefarelly]

Competitive driving is bloody hard work, not just physically and mentally, to succeed at any level you really need to be an engineer, of sorts at least, granted at professional level and not many at amatuer level, build/prepare their own cars ( or bikes) but you need an understanding.

SPOTY is a joke, but Rashford must be a shoe in.

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

Not a massive F1 fan but my son is and we watched the race yesterday. As he crossed the line we both realised we were probably watching something that will never be done again in our lifetimes.

Yes he's got the best car but so has Bottas and he calmly picked off his team mate. Again. Another example. They're racing on circuits they are not familiar with, have no data on and which are cold (bad for tyres) and windy (bad full stop). A few laps from home Hamilton radioed in to say he had cramp. A footballer would have gone down and spent five minutes on the deck with a team mate stretching a leg and pointing a foot. Hamilton continued to push the pedals, steer the wheels and soak up the gforce to get round an unfamiliar circuit at eye watering speed.

Between him and Rashford for SPOTY and without doubt the Formula 1 GOAT. Comparing him to champions in other sports is silly though because they are completely different. Botham, however, isn't even as good a cricketer as Stokes.

Totally agree that some sports are so diverse from each another that they just can't be compared, so it's a qujestion which isn't easikly answerable.

As for Botham, he was as deeply flawed as a cricketer, as he was as a person, and don't even bring his Brexit politics into it!

 

[Worried Man Blues]

Ahhh Greatest Brititish living sportsman . . . should have gone to Specsavers!

Well they both live in Switzerland!

 

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[Gabbiano]

To complain of Hamilton being an idiot and then to suggest Botham and Fury instead! Bizarre.

 

[Pierre the Painter]

A multi, multi millionaire whinging tax exile. Give me Rashford over him every day of the week if only for actually contributing something to British society.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

Sorry we will have to agree to differ on this one, thank god for democracy, all of us are flawed but I think some of the things he comes out with don’t do him him any favours, and that is in the last couple of years.

One example perhaps, championing the BLM movement which is very admirable, but a little flawed when he takes money from Hugo Boss who famously made all the Nazi uniforms, there’s no doubt he could survive without the HB sponsorship, how good would it have been if he’d severed the deal as part of his protest?

Sorry we will have to agree to differ on this one, thank god for democracy, all of us are flawed but I think some of the things he comes out with don’t do him him any favours, and that is in the last couple of years.

One example perhaps, championing the BLM movement which is very admirable, but a little flawed when he takes money from Hugo Boss who famously made all the Nazi uniforms, there’s no doubt he could survive without the HB sponsorship, how good would it have been if he’d severed the deal as part of his protest?

FWIW Hugo boss are one of the very few to German companies to apologise for its activities in WWII.
If this is your main bone of contention with Hamilton then it’s a piss poor one at that.

For Steve Redgrave. A kid from a state school becoming greatest Rower in the world and arguably the greatest Olympian ever.

I like Botham but not sure he’s even the greatest English Cricketer....

Tyson fury .... really .... embarrassing to the nth degree.


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[Hampster Gull]

The man is a legend. You get to the position of having the best car and for staying there this long by being better than his peers. Mercedes F1 are no fools, they pay him a fortune for a reason. I believe he has proved he is the best driver of his generation. Greatest living British sportsman....who knows

 

[highflyer]

Well they both live in Switzerland!

Monaco actually for Hamilton I believe. But yes, hard to admire someone as a British Sportsman when they are living elsewhere for tax purposes.

 

[Big Beach Seagull]

Why do certain modern sportsmen have to get so uppity when it comes to politics? It's political correctness gone mad. I bet the BBC paid for his driving lessons.

 

[Icy Gull]

Sorry we will have to agree to differ on this one, thank god for democracy, all of us are flawed but I think some of the things he comes out with don’t do him him any favours, and that is in the last couple of years.

One example perhaps, championing the BLM movement which is very admirable, but a little flawed when he takes money from Hugo Boss who famously made all the Nazi uniforms, there’s no doubt he could survive without the HB sponsorship, how good would it have been if he’d severed the deal as part of his protest?

You are sounding like someone stuck in the 50s here

I will be very disappointed if you own or use anything made in Germany or Japan too, you need to lead by example if you are going to criticise others

 

[wellquickwoody]

Worthy of such a title?

Sorry not for me, it has to be the full package, ie both in the chosen sport and away from it, and whilst he’s a superb driver off the track he’s an idiot.

For me it’s one of three, Sir Steven Redgrave, Lord Botham or a bit left field but look at his life journey and his achievements within his sport, Tyson Fury.

Redgrave is a good call, dominated his sport albeit with the help of others. Beefy was/is great, but never the absolute best in the world over a continuous period. Tyson Fury.........

Hamilton is a true professional and a winner to boot. I have a mate who hated Schumacher with a vengeance, I just repeated that he was the best in the world, whatever else. How can, or should, I argue against Lewis?

 

[Hugo Rune]

A multi, multi millionaire whinging tax exile. Give me Rashford over him every day of the week if only for actually contributing something to British society.

It’s not as if he has set up his own Charitable foundation that supports projects where he grew up?

Oh.........

https://www.totalgiving.co.uk/charity/lewis-hamilton-foundation

 

[wellquickwoody]

Highly subjective but I’d put these ahead of Hamilton who I just cannot warm to

Andy Murray
Lennox Lewis
Daley Thompson
Mo Farah
Steve Redgrave

And if you want to include pub games then Phil Taylor has a phenomenal record.

You’re funny!

 

[Worried Man Blues]

Monaco actually for Hamilton I believe. But yes, hard to admire someone as a British Sportsman when they are living elsewhere for tax purposes.

That shows how fast he moves!

 

[Gazwag]

Being an F1 driver is on a different level to being a footballer or cricketer imo. You don’t run the risk of such debilitating injuries or death kicking, hitting or throwing a ball.

I'm sure Phillip Hughes' family would say that's a bit unfair

 

[MattBackHome]

To say of Hamilton: "some of the things he comes out with don’t do him him any favours" and then not say the same of Tyson Fury is quite something.