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[Other Sport] Lewis Hamilton the greatest living British sportsman?



Napper

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Jul 9, 2003
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not read the thread as not a fan of Motor sports but have an opinion on Hamilton. He's a bell end.

In the same category as Andy Murray for me. Yeah keep winning for the flag but if it ends in tears I'm not going to care.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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Last time I took drugs I couldn't even find my bike, respect indeed. :lolol:

You got off lightly, [MENTION=316]Albion Dan[/MENTION] started spouting crap about astrology :lolol:
 




Deportivo Seagull

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Jul 22, 2003
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Actually Britain didn't boycott the 1980 Olympics fully, despite the government at the time wanting us to. The BOA allowed each sport to decide if they wanted to send athletes to compete or not. Rowing sent a team and won 1 silver and two bronzes. Steve Redgrave at 18 years of age would have been highly unlikely to have been considered for the team.

Rowing sent a limited team. We were world light four champions but decided not to send them to the Olympics. I know one of the rowers in the boat.


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Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

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Oct 4, 2003
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Rowing sent a limited team. We were world light four champions but decided not to send them to the Olympics. I know one of the rowers in the boat.


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We still sent one of the biggest teams for the rowing, we had 43 competitors taking part, only East Germany, Soviet Union and Bulgaria sent bigger teams. There were no light fours at the Olympic games until 1996 (and it's been dropped again from the 2020 games) so our world championship team wasn't eligible. We did send a Men's Coxless 4s that had finished 3rd at the 1979 World Championships and they also took bronze in Moscow with the same 4 competitors.
 






Deportivo Seagull

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Jul 22, 2003
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We still sent one of the biggest teams for the rowing, we had 43 competitors taking part, only East Germany, Soviet Union and Bulgaria sent bigger teams. There were no light fours at the Olympic games until 1996 (and it's been dropped again from the 2020 games) so our world championship team wasn't eligible. We did send a Men's Coxless 4s that had finished 3rd at the 1979 World Championships and they also took bronze in Moscow with the same 4 competitors.

I need to do a bit checking then. I was under the impression that they sent a reduced team. Well you live and learn.


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saintquin

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Apr 13, 2010
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Don't understand the best car argument either. F1 is a team sport, best drivers join the best teams, just as in football the best players join the top teams.


People say that Hamilton wouldn't win the title in a Williams. But that's like criticising Messi for joining Fulham and not winning the Champions League.

So does that mean, just because you've haven't won lots of trophies doesn't mean you're not the best?

I've had similar arguments with a Man Und fan about Ryan Giggs. He says because he's won the most trophies therefor he must be the best footballer. My reply was he won the trophies because he was in the best team and we don't know if he would or wouldn't have won as many with a different club. A little similar with Hamilton.
What about people who have won things in different sports? You could argue they maybe the best sportsperson.
 




sahel

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Jan 24, 2014
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So does that mean, just because you've haven't won lots of trophies doesn't mean you're not the best?

I've had similar arguments with a Man Und fan about Ryan Giggs. He says because he's won the most trophies therefor he must be the best footballer. My reply was he won the trophies because he was in the best team and we don't know if he would or wouldn't have won as many with a different club. A little similar with Hamilton.
What about people who have won things in different sports? You could argue they maybe the best sportsperson.

A couple of points which may have already been made. First I have no time for someone who rushes off to Monaco to avoid tax. And secondly is it not akin to giving Andy Murray a bigger racket with superior technology and then praising him for winning all the time.
 


Bold Seagull

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Mar 18, 2010
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A couple of points which may have already been made. First I have no time for someone who rushes off to Monaco to avoid tax. And secondly is it not akin to giving Andy Murray a bigger racket with superior technology and then praising him for winning all the time.

What about he did win with a better racket, but he also won with the same racket, and sometimes won with a worse racket than others? What about if Sir Steve Regrave didn't have 3 other world class rowers in his boat, what if to even up the field, he had an average rower in there as well? What if Chris Hoy had the same bike and kit as his competitors? What if Sir Bradly Wiggins didn't have Chris Froome to drag his arse through the Alps? What if.....oh forget it.:rolleyes:
 


Icy Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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What about he did win with a better racket, but he also won with the same racket, and sometimes won with a worse racket than others? What about if Sir Steve Regrave didn't have 3 other world class rowers in his boat, what if to even up the field, he had an average rower in there as well? What if Chris Hoy had the same bike and kit as his competitors? What if Sir Bradly Wiggins didn't have Chris Froome to drag his arse through the Alps? What if.....oh forget it.:rolleyes:

You are wasting your time

I am totally underwhelmed by cricketers but don’t feel the need to try and run them down as I am sure the best are brilliant at what they do. I’d rather take a walk on the beach with my dog than waste my time watching something I don’t enjoy. Doesn’t mean that cricketers are shit or that they are not sportsmen deserving of praise from cricket fanatics though :shrug:

I do like tennis though but don’t think Murray is on the same World level as Hamilton
 
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Hugo Rune

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New contact signed at Mercedes despite the ‘inside info’ from the Hamilton Out Campaign on here!

Well done Lewis! Greatest living UK sportsperson indeed!
 


A1X

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Don't know what's in the contract obviously but there was talk the other day that it might include a commitment to a position within the team once he's finished driving. Interesting to see he's clearly got an eye on the future and wants to stay in the sport.
 


Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
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New contact signed at Mercedes despite the ‘inside info’ from the Hamilton Out Campaign on here!

Well done Lewis! Greatest living UK sportsperson indeed!

Someone’s day is ruined :smile:
 








blue-shifted

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Feb 20, 2004
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It makes total sense.

He wants unbeatable records

He can see some very talented and very young drivers.

He knows that he'll need a couple more drivers championships to hold Max and Charles at bay in the all time list

Merc is the car he can do that in
 


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