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Lewis Dunk: Thick or just pretending ?
- Thread starter hopkins
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Was it only me cringing every time they got a corner and Bruno was all over Austin... Or some of the back passes we made that put ourselves under pressure.. All our players make daft decisions that cost us points... Win our next 2 and we will all be happy again
Langley
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Surely it is you who is the idiot for starting this post.
A very talented young player prone to the odd error for which you castigate him.
I presume that by posting this that YOU have never made a mistake in your life.
Well, it actually didn't save anything, as they got the penalty from the resulting corner - but yes, it really was a MAGNIFICENT tackle, and one that no other Albion centre back could have made.
We are UNBEATEN, and joint TOP of the Championship, in a season most were predicting us to be 10th at best. If anyone isn't already 'happy' then frankly, they never will be, and should probably find a new hobby.
Poor memory on my part but glad you see my point!
worthingseagull
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- Sep 28, 2011
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Dunk is a quality central defender but occasionally makes very bad decisons
On the bright side at least we have BFG to come in now (not many teams could replace someone of Dunks ability with another)
On the bright side at least we have BFG to come in now (not many teams could replace someone of Dunks ability with another)
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His job lasts 90 minutes a week ! His second touch is often a tackle and he dives in way to much. And can people stop saying "young player/person" as though he's 5 years old. I think a few games in the reserves just to calm him down a bit (obviously after his ban).
Prettyboyshaw
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Are you having a laugh, 90 minutes, he plays often twice a week, trains most days for a couple of hours and visits Childrens hospitals. You wouldn't ****ing well do that for £15k a week. God there are some
on this board.I'm just pointing out there are other players out there making stupid decisions.. If we didn't debate about things this football hobby would be pointless.. We could go through this season being unbeaten and still not go up but can't comment as we were unbeaten
spring hall convert
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God, there's some people going right over the top (like Dunky hehe) on this thread as per bloody usual.
We're all disappointed, I'm sure he's disappointed. I'm sure CH will ensure he learns from it. His overall play this year has been very good with the odd lapse. Like keepers it's easy to see when a centre back loses you points, much harder to to see when they gain you points.
Also, we'd be in League One now if it wasn't for him so I think the lad deserves to be cut a bit of slack.
We're all disappointed, I'm sure he's disappointed. I'm sure CH will ensure he learns from it. His overall play this year has been very good with the odd lapse. Like keepers it's easy to see when a centre back loses you points, much harder to to see when they gain you points.
Also, we'd be in League One now if it wasn't for him so I think the lad deserves to be cut a bit of slack.
Diego Napier
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The problem with Dunk is that he is a very good central defender but he lacks consistency and doesn't seem to learn from his mistakes. In every game he will almost always make one serious rickett, whether it's a misplaced pass into midfield straight to an opposition player or a rash or poorly judged tackle. Since Poyet's days, the crowd I go to the match with have a regular saying - "Whew, let's hope that's his only one today".
Playing keepy-uppy into his own net was a bit of a joke at Liverpool. Conceding a penalty by bringing down Callum Wilson to allow Bournemouth to beat us 3-2 was daft. Being sent off after 10 minutes for downing Bolasie and suffering the 3-0 defeat at Palarse hurt more. Last night's lack of judgement seems the worst because it's still so fresh and still seems so stupid.
Having had 5 seasons in the Championship, he's now a very experienced defender, I'm not sure he will ever get any better.
Playing keepy-uppy into his own net was a bit of a joke at Liverpool. Conceding a penalty by bringing down Callum Wilson to allow Bournemouth to beat us 3-2 was daft. Being sent off after 10 minutes for downing Bolasie and suffering the 3-0 defeat at Palarse hurt more. Last night's lack of judgement seems the worst because it's still so fresh and still seems so stupid.
Having had 5 seasons in the Championship, he's now a very experienced defender, I'm not sure he will ever get any better.
Reluctantly I share your pessimism. Ive tried to give Dunk the benefit of the doubt but last nights madness was his "one mistake a game" and as has so often been the case it proved to be costly. The tragedy of it is that he played so well in the first half. But he started to get "involved" with Faurlin some time before he got sent off and with the wisdom of hindsight it it was probably only a matter of time before something happened between them. We will miss his ariel ability but won't miss his mistimed tackles or his ball distribution or his "one mistake a game". I liked the Greer/Uwe pairing earlier in the season. Lets hope they can rekindle their partnership and I will be interested to see Goldson get some game time too - the reports have been good.
This one mistake a game thing is a myth. Also Dunks distribution is generally very good. Was he not directly responsible for causing a quick counter attack which led to a goal in a recent game? Unless of course you meant Greers distribution which is usually slow and predictable
view from a non-Albion fan (though I was supporting your lot last night). Dunk's tackle was very silly, even if you get the ball these days the ref will yellow card you, seem to remember watching a game recently on Sky where a player made a great challenge, slid in and won the ball. Yellow card.
If you go in on the floor all it takes is the opposing player to hold their shin a bit and the ref's already got the card ready. Shame, because there are a lot of tackles which get cards but were well made.
Dunks wasn't one of them though, he must have realised that, on a yellow, he'd be off. Player was going nowhere so the risk:reward simply wasn't there. Perhaps he fancied xmas off....
Anyway, I say stick with the lad. You've done the hard work with him and he just needs to iron that aspect of his game out. We had a defender called Andre Bikey who was great 99% of the time, that 1% he'd do something inexplicable. But he was older and I suspect Dunk can ease this part out of his game far more easily.
Big one on Saturday, will be cheering your boys on. Annoyingly we lost to Boro last night but I think you can turn them over at yours.
If you go in on the floor all it takes is the opposing player to hold their shin a bit and the ref's already got the card ready. Shame, because there are a lot of tackles which get cards but were well made.
Dunks wasn't one of them though, he must have realised that, on a yellow, he'd be off. Player was going nowhere so the risk:reward simply wasn't there. Perhaps he fancied xmas off....
Anyway, I say stick with the lad. You've done the hard work with him and he just needs to iron that aspect of his game out. We had a defender called Andre Bikey who was great 99% of the time, that 1% he'd do something inexplicable. But he was older and I suspect Dunk can ease this part out of his game far more easily.
Big one on Saturday, will be cheering your boys on. Annoyingly we lost to Boro last night but I think you can turn them over at yours.
Arthritic Toe
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He was fired up and he lost it. It was a red mist moment. I doubt if it cost us the 3 points as we wouldv'e been backs to the wall anyway - and we had Uwe as an instant replacement. Our back 4 have been superb to a man this season (all 7 of them 
. They play on adreneline - this sort of thing will happen.
. They play on adreneline - this sort of thing will happen.Shropshire Seagull
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AKA His first touch let him down [again].
Greer did something similar earlier in the game but was not so stupid as to dive in [unlike at Derby last Saturday]
They both are very capable but those few mistakes have proven fatal against decent championship sides - I fear what prem teams might do against those two.
BBassic
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It was a reckless challenge certainly but I'm tempering my reaction to it with the consideration that QPR should probably have had a straight red in the first half for the lunge on Murphy. Fella went full throttle into him, onto the top of his foot, nowhere near the ball and no card, not even a yellow. Inconsistent refereeing, again.
As I have reflected in his marks this season he has been a complete liability.
The fact he went "on strike" and didn't play at Southend in the LC was indicative of the fact that the Fulham interest had turned his head and he thought he was the dog's.
Rewarding him by extending his contract and giving him a bigger wedge was daft.
CH clearly fancied Greer and the BFG at the start of the season and given some of Dunk's performances it baffles me why the BFG wasn't brought straight back in the moment he was fit.
In the past month or two we have had Dunk's ridiculous and blatantly obvious shirt pull to give away the penalty at Burnley. IMO against MK Dons he got extremely lucky! He turned his back on the ball for Charlton's second goal.
But he crowned that lot with two acts of gross stupidity last night. First booking we had three defending against their player, on the touchline. Dunk just trips their player up. The second was IMO a straight red. It was an attempt to injure the player not to win the ball. If that had been done to one of ours we would be dishing out heaps of abuse.
I agree with the OP. Take whatever we can get. He will never hold down a place in a PL team because he is just too thick.
The fact he went "on strike" and didn't play at Southend in the LC was indicative of the fact that the Fulham interest had turned his head and he thought he was the dog's.
Rewarding him by extending his contract and giving him a bigger wedge was daft.
CH clearly fancied Greer and the BFG at the start of the season and given some of Dunk's performances it baffles me why the BFG wasn't brought straight back in the moment he was fit.
In the past month or two we have had Dunk's ridiculous and blatantly obvious shirt pull to give away the penalty at Burnley. IMO against MK Dons he got extremely lucky! He turned his back on the ball for Charlton's second goal.
But he crowned that lot with two acts of gross stupidity last night. First booking we had three defending against their player, on the touchline. Dunk just trips their player up. The second was IMO a straight red. It was an attempt to injure the player not to win the ball. If that had been done to one of ours we would be dishing out heaps of abuse.
I agree with the OP. Take whatever we can get. He will never hold down a place in a PL team because he is just too thick.
Tony Meolas Loan Spell
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Agree. This puzzles me as well. I like Dunk overall but to me he is def third choice CB and what with what happened earlier quite clearly not the same player he was.
THANKFULLY its an enforced absence now.