[Albion] Levi Colwill

[axscott]

Am I insane or is £40m an overpay, let alone a reasonable bid??

Colwill wasnt even first team for us and has never played a game for Chelsea and likely to be a bench player behind Fofana, Silva and Badiashile. How is £40m, DOUBLE the Brighton transfer record before this summer, a 'disgrace' and 'insulting' like Chelsea fans are moaning?

 

[The Fits]

Am I insane or is £40m an overpay, let alone a reasonable bid??

Colwill wasnt even first team for us and has never played a game for Chelsea and likely to be a bench player behind Fofana, Silva and Badiashile. How is £40m, DOUBLE the Brighton transfer record before this summer, a 'disgrace' and 'insulting' like Chelsea fans are moaning?

Because online football supporters are bellends.
They don't understand what a big deal it is for us because they spunk money all over the place.
Most of them haven't even seen him play as well, they haven't got a clue.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Am I insane or is £40m an overpay, let alone a reasonable bid??

Colwill wasnt even first team for us and has never played a game for Chelsea and likely to be a bench player behind Fofana, Silva and Badiashile. How is £40m, DOUBLE the Brighton transfer record before this summer, a 'disgrace' and 'insulting' like Chelsea fans are moaning?

It’s all about Caicedo.

I’m certain that there is no way that Bloom will let Chelsea can have both players.

The problem with Mr Toad is that as his core, he functions to that vile instinct of capitalism and consumerism. He wants something because someone else does. Look at the Cucu and Mudryk transfers, overpaying for players they didn’t need because other clubs wanted them.

After missing out on Ugarte, he’ll be getting a little desperate. Arsenal will come calling for Caicedo and together with the FFP deadline at the end of June, Mr Toad will be cornered and under only the sort of pressure Tony Bloom opponents feel. I suspect we’d talk to Chelsea about a swap of the players plus £50m - £80m and we’re about to admit that Colwill will make up £40m of that deal (giving Caicedo a value of £90m - £120m).

Controversial opinion. Colwill is worth more to us than Moises. We utilise all Colwill’s skills but Moises is a box-to-box midfielder (who potentially could be the best in the world at that), we use him as a defensive midfielder only. Bit of a waste but that’s Dezerdbiball.

 

[Icy Gull]

I am resigned to losing three players, Alexis, Moises and Levi (who in true Leeds fashion I now think of as our player)

 

[Affy]

I wouldn't want him if he put in a transfer request to get here.
You sign up to a contract, deal with the consequences.

I wouldn’t rule him out just because he’s asked to leave. Especially Chelsea at the moment. When he signed the contract he came through the youth academy for a team challenging top 4 and with CL on the horizon. Multiple managers (who may or may not see him as important) and having had a taste of regular first team football with a club he has clearly enjoyed playing for, and in the last year of his contract. Things have changed significantly since he signed this contract back in 2021 I think. If he thinks he can have more first team football and develop better at Brighton then I’d happily take him.

 

[Stumpy Tim]

Controversial opinion. Colwill is worth more to us than Moises. We utilise all Colwill’s skills but Moises is a box-to-box midfielder (who potentially could be the best in the world at that), we use him as a defensive midfielder only. Bit of a waste but that’s Dezerdbiball.

Not controversial. Utter Madness.

 

[um bongo molongo]

It’s all about Caicedo.

I’m certain that there is no way that Bloom will let Chelsea can have both players.

The problem with Mr Toad is that as his core, he functions to that vile instinct of capitalism and consumerism. He wants something because someone else does. Look at the Cucu and Mudryk transfers, overpaying for players they didn’t need because other clubs wanted them.

After missing out on Ugarte, he’ll be getting a little desperate. Arsenal will come calling for Caicedo and together with the FFP deadline at the end of June, Mr Toad will be cornered and under only the sort of pressure Tony Bloom opponents feel. I suspect we’d talk to Chelsea about a swap of the players plus £50m - £80m and we’re about to admit that Colwill will make up £40m of that deal (giving Caicedo a value of £90m - £120m).

Controversial opinion. Colwill is worth more to us than Moises. We utilise all Colwill’s skills but Moises is a box-to-box midfielder (who potentially could be the best in the world at that), we use him as a defensive midfielder only. Bit of a waste but that’s Dezerdbiball.

I agree with your main point about it being about Caicedo. But for FFP it presumably makes more sense for Chelsea if it’s separate deals. We pay £40m (or I suspect it may need to be £45m…) for Colwill which counts as a lump sum profit for this year for FFP. They pay us £100m of Moises which they can amortise over the length of the contract, so £20m/year for a 5 year contract.

As for your point on who is more important though…I think we can find a similar player to Levi. But finding another Caceido is pretty much impossible unless we buy Kante and a Time Machine.

 

[southstandandy]

As much as I like Colwill, £40m is as far as we should go IMO. We have a great track record of finding gems around the world and for that sort of money we could sign maybe 5 potential stars, with a decent probabilty that at least a couple would come good.

 

[Machiavelli]

I wouldn’t rule him out just because he’s asked to leave. Especially Chelsea at the moment. When he signed the contract he came through the youth academy for a team challenging top 4 and with CL on the horizon. Multiple managers (who may or may not see him as important) and having had a taste of regular first team football with a club he has clearly enjoyed playing for, and in the last year of his contract. Things have changed significantly since he signed this contract back in 2021 I think. If he thinks he can have more first team football and develop better at Brighton then I’d happily take him.

Good post, but I think Colwill has 2 years left on his contract (some have indicated three, which might entail a one year option, but the predominant view is two).

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

I wouldn’t rule him out just because he’s asked to leave. Especially Chelsea at the moment. When he signed the contract he came through the youth academy for a team challenging top 4 and with CL on the horizon. Multiple managers (who may or may not see him as important) and having had a taste of regular first team football with a club he has clearly enjoyed playing for, and in the last year of his contract. Things have changed significantly since he signed this contract back in 2021 I think. If he thinks he can have more first team football and develop better at Brighton then I’d happily take him.

If he can't cope with having a new manager at Chelsea, he needs to learn to deal with life.
Also, if he's the sort of person who starts publicly pissing about in the tent at Chelsea to get a move here, he'd do exactly the same to us the moment he thinks a better offer's on the table somewhere else.

 

[nwgull]

Am I insane or is £40m an overpay, let alone a reasonable bid??

Colwill wasnt even first team for us and has never played a game for Chelsea and likely to be a bench player behind Fofana, Silva and Badiashile. How is £40m, DOUBLE the Brighton transfer record before this summer, a 'disgrace' and 'insulting' like Chelsea fans are moaning?

You're not insane. Colwill is a very good young defender with potential, but that potential still has to be realised. With a fully fit and rested squad to chose from, it was always 50/50 between Webster and Colwill for the starting LCB spot. 40m would be a really good offer if it were to be made, and I'd prefer to see us walk away and spend the money elsewhere rather than go any higher.

 

[Mental Lental]

You're not insane. Colwill is a very good young defender with potential, but that potential still has to be realised. With a fully fit and rested squad to chose from, it was always 50/50 between Webster and Colwill for the starting LCB spot. 40m would be a really good offer if it were to be made, and I'd prefer to see us walk away and spend the money elsewhere rather than go any higher.

Yeah 40m is the limit. Take it or leave it. They might come back to us nearer to the deadline if they're still under FFP pressure.

 

[TWOCHOICEStom]

Despite what the 14 year old keyboard warriors in Fabrizio Romano's replies say, this is a decent bid. I don't think we should pay more for reasons other posters have already stated. He's not that good. Yet.

 

[SeagullinExile]

Well, if Chelsea don’t accept £40m. I’m assuming they’re going to offer the lad a fat new contract?

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Well, if Chelsea don’t accept £40m. I’m assuming they’re going to offer the lad a fat new contract?

He's had a contract extension on the table for a while now. Still hasn't signed it.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

In a world where cucurella cost 62m, white cost 50m, forfana cost whatever he was, Maguire was 80m, Michael Keane was 30m......paying 40m for a player with such huge potential is fine by me.

Go on this sum alone. 112m or so received for white and cucurella.

Estupinan and colwill in for 58m

54m made and the team is better and younger. Fine.

 

[Insel affe]

40 million pah, waste of money.

Dunk did not cost that much and he's an England player

 

[pb21]

As much as I like Colwill, £40m is as far as we should go IMO. We have a great track record of finding gems around the world and for that sort of money we could sign maybe 5 potential stars, with a decent probabilty that at least a couple would come good.

Good point. Potentially we are going somewhat against our recent transfer MO on the basis Colwill is a proven quality player for us (with potential to improve further) and, presumably, De Zerbi wants to sign him, and Colwill would like to stay.

 

[Brian Fantana]

Decent left footed centre backs are pretty hard to find. Colwill could be the best English one over the next decade or so. When you combine that with his PL experience, I think £40-50m is about right.

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

Well, if Chelsea don’t accept £40m. I’m assuming they’re going to offer the lad a fat new contract?

Or they are trying to create a market for him. We've helped that by setting down a benchmark (if we actually did bid £40m).

"If Brighton want him, with their data metrics, he must be as good as he looks - let's get a bid in".