- Nov 15, 2006
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He would have been transferred. It was still touch and go whether he was going to sign a new contract even after the failed Colwill bid wasn’t it?
I’d have Levi back at the right price and wages, I liked him
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[Albion] Levi Colwill
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I’d have Levi back at the right price and wages, I liked him
Nobby Cybergoat
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- Jul 19, 2021
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My guess with Colwill. Chelsea will accept offers for him to ease FFP issues, but we won't make one.
Expect Newcastle, West Ham, Villa, Spurs to sniff around, and one of them to eventually stump up around £40m for his services
Expect Newcastle, West Ham, Villa, Spurs to sniff around, and one of them to eventually stump up around £40m for his services
You're probably right looking at how he got outpaced last night.
However, you don't necessarily need speed of foot to play in a De Zerbi team. Speed of thought is more important. Hence Dunk and Gross are our most important players, Veltman always looks better than Lamptey and so on.
I wouldn't want to have an entire squad with no pace because then you are totally screwed but I'd imagine it's quite a low weighted variable when it comes to centre backs at Brighton. Decision making, passing and having a left foot will be weighted much higher IMO.
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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My thoughts:
1. Colwill has been unlucky in that Chilwell's injury, Cucu's loss of form and Chelsea selling Lewis Hall to Newcastle has meant they'd gone from having 3 left-backs to zero. Therefore, he's had to play out of position out of necessity.
2. Malo Gusto at right back has been a disaster, while Reece James is usually injured. Badiashile has been injured, Fofana is a long-term injury, Disasi has been poor, Thiago Silva has no pace, Caicedo has not settled, Fernandex has underperformed so everything around Colwill has been unsettled.
3. Our defence has kept one Prem clean sheet all season. We are leaking silly goals. There are a number of reasons for this but - for me - JPVH has not been anywhere near as solid as Colwill was for us last season.
4. The club was right to have offered big money for Colwill in the summer, but I wonder whether Igor's arrival, JPVH's gradual improvement and Colwill's regression under Poch now means the moment has passed. Like Caicedo, Liverpool would have been a better move for him than returning to Chelsea.
1. Colwill has been unlucky in that Chilwell's injury, Cucu's loss of form and Chelsea selling Lewis Hall to Newcastle has meant they'd gone from having 3 left-backs to zero. Therefore, he's had to play out of position out of necessity.
2. Malo Gusto at right back has been a disaster, while Reece James is usually injured. Badiashile has been injured, Fofana is a long-term injury, Disasi has been poor, Thiago Silva has no pace, Caicedo has not settled, Fernandex has underperformed so everything around Colwill has been unsettled.
3. Our defence has kept one Prem clean sheet all season. We are leaking silly goals. There are a number of reasons for this but - for me - JPVH has not been anywhere near as solid as Colwill was for us last season.
4. The club was right to have offered big money for Colwill in the summer, but I wonder whether Igor's arrival, JPVH's gradual improvement and Colwill's regression under Poch now means the moment has passed. Like Caicedo, Liverpool would have been a better move for him than returning to Chelsea.
Hotchilidog
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- Jan 24, 2009
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Not sure CB is a position we need to spend money on now. Levi would just get ahead of Webster in the back up stakes as Dunk and JPVH are definitely first choice. If we did sign him I'd welcome him back, but this time round it would seem to be a luxury signing.
Wardy's twin
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- Oct 21, 2014
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Whilst Dunk is currently first choice he is not getting any younger and seems to have picked up a lot of small injuries in last 9 months whereas previously he seemed to be bullet proof. Colwill is someone we know and RDZ likes , not the finished article by any stretch but shouldn't be written off IMO. If RDZ thinks he is the player he wants and fees/wages are not ridiculous then question for me is why not rather than why.
Wardy's twin
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very well put
- Jul 6, 2011
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That ship has sailed sadly. But if Chelsea get relegated then it might be worth a cheeky bid...
Jimmy Grimble
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I agree. Other than when our centre halves get isolated wide, usually in a 1 on 1 in a counter attack. Again, JPVH is usually the best at defending these due to his pace and mobility. I think ultimate RDZ ball requires one fast CB.
Dunk is right footed and prefers RCB. He’s playing on the left now because Colwil left and he’s more experienced than JPVH there. Luckily for us Dunk is more than capable at LCB and I’m not sure it makes a difference where he plays.
Dunk left sided CB partners include Duffy, Burn and Upson.
Greer (right footed) also played to the left of Dunk at times.
Yer we could probably get similar abroad for 10-15m as well. Overpriced English man.
I think you’d be surprised. RDZ talks about his loss in the same way he does MacAllister and Caicedo, he loves him. Colwill is a massive talent and RDZ wants a left sided CB hence trying to sign Colwill and Matvienko previously and actually signing Igor.
We all rate different qualities in a player, JPVH has improved massively this season but personally, I would play Colwill ahead of him. That doesn’t mean to say I don’t rate JPVH at all, he’s been excellent and to me is clearly Dunk’s long term successor now but I happen to prefer Colwill.
Plus Colwill is three years younger than Van Hecke, he’s incredibly young for a PL CB where experience and know how counts for so much. If we see how much Van Hecke has improved in the last year, Colwill could be frightening in three years time.
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maltaseagull
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Agreed but as the club is know for forward and succession planning, I think we have Dunk´s replacement in JPVH and probably are looking for a U23/U21 to play alongside him in a couple of years when Lewis might be stepping down.
maltaseagull
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What a wonderful thought!
Uh_huh_him
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- Sep 28, 2011
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RDZ has said the opposite.
Silverhatch
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He is SO in our wheelhouse… apart from having f***ed us off for the Kings Road ****s
Sheebo
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- Jul 13, 2003
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I don’t think there would be much difference in wages on the deal he signed compared to what we were offering. He hadn’t played for them remember - won the silly money for once with Chelski.
I’ve said all along I think he’ll sign for us one day again. Hope I’m right.
He didn’t really …..he was theirs to start with. Would be a massive ****off statement to them if he came back to us, especially if he went public about what a mistake he made signing a new contract
southstandandy
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- Jul 9, 2003
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Would only take him for maybe £5m now. Definitely gone backwards at the same time as JPV has gone forward.
Uh_huh_him
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- Sep 28, 2011
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Duffy always played on the right,.
Dunk has played LCB for most of his career, despite it not being his preferred position.