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[Brighton] Levi Colwill *Signed on Season-Long Loan 05/08/2022*
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B-right-on
Living the dream
Bloke can't even spell his own name right.
Should be Nathan Guessing.
Because that's all he's doing.
And he looks like his pubes haven't even grown yet
Whitechapel
Famous Last Words
Sorry, next time I want to give my opinion on something on a forum I’ll pop you a message and make sure you approve first pal.
- Jul 6, 2011
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I'm loving the use of the classic "pal" there. You don't see enough of that these days.
South west gull
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- Nov 3, 2021
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Never mind the buy back clause (if there is one) - just look at the price. The two deals might be separate, but in reality it's just Chelsea making an offer of £30M plus Colwill for Cucu - and could anybody really see TB taking that?
METALMICKY
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- Jan 30, 2004
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Very punchable! Personally I've always been a long time fan of ' whatever '. Sublimely dismissive but no hint of aggression. Now if only Jamie Vardy had the balls at the onset to explain that to his witch!
Greg Bobkin
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- May 22, 2012
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I guess so, but do we REALLY know the club is upset with Cucurella? I've said it before, transfer request or not, the club would decide if he goes or not. Chelsea must've (apparently) met the value that TB and co put on him – if not, they would've told Chelsea to do one.
It's one of my favourite passive aggressive but blatantly hostile "friendly" words out there. I think it has something to do with Joe Pesci
Neville's Breakfast
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One of certainly. But the use of ‘my friend’ when being unfriendly is higher in the passive aggressive stakes….in my opinion, of course…. know what I mean pal ?
Lurchy
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- Jul 2, 2014
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The club is definitely upset with Cucurella’s agent, and probably will try to avoid doing any business with them going forward.
Oh of course. All a matter of opinions and you're welcome you yours my friend
Given Cucurella is his only client …!
Perfidious Albion
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I don’t see the benefit of this buy back clause, except to the seller. As I see it, Chelsea would sell him to us for X amount. However, at some point in the future they have the right to demand him back and pay X + Y . Really that is little more than an indefinite loan albeit with a bonus to us in the future.
What about inflation, what will you get for that money in ,say, 5 years time?
Suppose we wanted to sell him for less than the buy back price, can we do so?
It seems to me that if he comes good, Chelsea get him back cheap and if he is poor, we are stuck with him.
I guess the clause is written into his contact with Albion . What if he serves his contract and wants to walk away on a Bosman free?
It does not seem a good deal for either the buying club or the player.
What about inflation, what will you get for that money in ,say, 5 years time?
Suppose we wanted to sell him for less than the buy back price, can we do so?
It seems to me that if he comes good, Chelsea get him back cheap and if he is poor, we are stuck with him.
I guess the clause is written into his contact with Albion . What if he serves his contract and wants to walk away on a Bosman free?
It does not seem a good deal for either the buying club or the player.
Mancgull
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A buy back is something to obviously avoid as it limits the upside on the risk being taken and also means that we have no control over the timing of a sale if Chelsea come back in for him.
However, if it is a high buy back ( say £60m ) then I guess we could accept that as it would represent circa £40m of profit.
Maybe we could just pay a bit extra upfront and ask them to exclude any buy back.
Anyway, looking at the clips of him play at Huddersfield and previously for Chelsea U23s the lad looks a real talent and would certainly give us options as he can play left sided centre back or Left Back. He has pace and passing ability and likes a tackle. A really good replacement for Cucu in that regard. Doubt whether left wing back is his thing, but we have cover there.
The thing that really helps with Colwill coming our way is that without this we would be very openly cash rich and on the look out for a Cucu replacement and so would be having to pay top dollar for a replacement.
I’m really hoping we can get this deal done. I think we wouldn’t be significantly weakened by it team wise, and of course money wise we’ll be c £30m up and hopefully that can be used for other purchases.
However, if it is a high buy back ( say £60m ) then I guess we could accept that as it would represent circa £40m of profit.
Maybe we could just pay a bit extra upfront and ask them to exclude any buy back.
Anyway, looking at the clips of him play at Huddersfield and previously for Chelsea U23s the lad looks a real talent and would certainly give us options as he can play left sided centre back or Left Back. He has pace and passing ability and likes a tackle. A really good replacement for Cucu in that regard. Doubt whether left wing back is his thing, but we have cover there.
The thing that really helps with Colwill coming our way is that without this we would be very openly cash rich and on the look out for a Cucu replacement and so would be having to pay top dollar for a replacement.
I’m really hoping we can get this deal done. I think we wouldn’t be significantly weakened by it team wise, and of course money wise we’ll be c £30m up and hopefully that can be used for other purchases.
Garry Nelson's Left Foot
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With the buy back, how long does it last? Is it for the entirety of the players time at the club or for a set number of years/first contract?
Brian Fantana
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Unless you're Tony Bloom or Paul Barber, you absolutely no idea whether that is correct or not. Allegedly, not wanting a buy back was why we didn't pursue the Livramento deal last summer, but that doesn't mean it is our stance in general. If the player is someone GP wants and the terms/price of the buy back deal are favourable enough to TB/PB to feel like we could really benefit then I don't see why we wouldn't go for it.
macbeth
Dismembered
the benefit is us getting a player who perhaps wouldn't be available otherwise. how ever good our recruitment team think he is dictates whether that deal is seemingly worth it or not. agree it's not ideal, but say we sign him for £20M, keep him for two years and then sell back to Chelsea for £50M. that's likely around what we'd probably sell him for anyways and also around as long as he'd be here if he's any good
Insel affe
HellBilly
I think this is dead in the water, considering we released the statement and the cold fact we do not do loans or Mr T is not keen on buy backs.
We ultimately did not wish to sell in the first place, these are just rumours spread by the very people the club talked about in their statement.
We ultimately did not wish to sell in the first place, these are just rumours spread by the very people the club talked about in their statement.
