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Lets not forget people, no Knight, no stadium
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king Wombat
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Or just listen to his interviews, where he talks in the first person whether the decision/action was his or the board, or the club, or the falmer stadium team, or the fans, and take that as an indication that he made the decision/took the action himself.
This is football. Who on here say "the football team lost yesterday"? Not many, I'd wager, instead most of us say "we lost yesterday". We weren't on the pitch. But we all consider ourselves part of the club. We're not alone.
All through football people say 'we' and 'us'.
Having said that, the only time Dick's use of "I" bothered me was with the firing of Mark McGhee, because it came a few months after "the board" made the decision to keep him, and coincided with a lot of fans getting on DK's back, so it stank of self-preservation to me (and at that point he shouldn't have needed to preserve himself).
king Wombat
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not quite sure what your point is.
you're complaining about DK's use of the english language??
or do you expect the chairman never to make any mistakes in job and then explain every decision to a bunch of keyboard warriors, half of which don't have the capability of understanding anything that is not black and white?
you're complaining about DK's use of the english language??
or do you expect the chairman never to make any mistakes in job and then explain every decision to a bunch of keyboard warriors, half of which don't have the capability of understanding anything that is not black and white?
Gary Leeds
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- May 5, 2008
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If you were the best person for your job but you had a major falling out with the top man and he didnt like you then your position would be in trouble no matter how good you were.
I doubt we will never know the real story between DK and DW (or any other manager in fact) thats the way most businesses work, but despite what ever has gone on its not just a case of no DK, no stadium, its no DK, no club!
As has been said people make mistakes, after all we are only human
I doubt we will never know the real story between DK and DW (or any other manager in fact) thats the way most businesses work, but despite what ever has gone on its not just a case of no DK, no stadium, its no DK, no club!
As has been said people make mistakes, after all we are only human
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
But if you continually make the same mistakes or by your mistakes you cost your employers financial losses on a great style your competence is called into question and your continuing employance is also called into question.
Insel affe
HellBilly
So thats that then chaps, we all know that he never has been able to see a job through to the end ! Everywhere he goes, everything he does turns to shit sooner or later its just a joke. There is no way in the world he can see this through and if our future and the completion of this stadium relies on this man we all know its just not gonna happen, But i must say i never thought i would see the day Leon knight would work on a building site never mind Falmer.........!
Brighton Breezy
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He takes the plaudits in the good times, he should get stick in the bad times.
I will love him for helping to save this club but we look to be heading right back to where he found us - in the bottom division of English football.
A legend no doubt, but one who is making it increasingly more difficult to keep holding in such high esteem.
I will love him for helping to save this club but we look to be heading right back to where he found us - in the bottom division of English football.
A legend no doubt, but one who is making it increasingly more difficult to keep holding in such high esteem.
Barnham Seagull
Yapton Actually
IMHO thats a fair call.
My point is when Dick Knight says "I" and "my" when he means "Tony Bloom did this" or "the board decided" or "this club" you can't blame people for thinking he is responsible for things that he isn't actually responsible for, you can't say they're living in cloud cuckoo land.
throbinson
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Where was this club before DK came here, in deep deep shit. Yes we maybe going down to league 2, yes he has made mistakes, who hasn't but hes worked f***ing hard for this club and imo dosen't deserve this much stick
throbinson
Well-known member
Is it DK who has played so shit this season or the players
Billy the Fish
Technocrat
The big difference is that when he took over we were playing in Gillingham without a hope of a permenant home, and a return to brighton was just a pipedream. I'm sure most people wouldn't have been surprised if the club had gone to the wall.
We now have a new stadium being built and are fairly stable financially (in football terms anyway). We have spent a fair amount of our history in the bottom division, we've got out befor and we'll do it again, but next time we'll have the infastructure in place to be able to stay in the higher leagues once we get there.
If you'd offered me this senario ten years ago I would've snapped your hand off.
seagullsovergrimsby
#cpfctinpotclub
If DK was a politician he would now be a puppet dictator. Instead of living on past glories and waiting for Falmer before stepping upstairs he needs to weigh up the prospect of things getting worse than they already are. We all acknowledge he defeated the would be clubkillers , Archer & Bellotti and are grateful.
fire&skill
Killer-Diller
You are so f*cking right. I'm sick and tired of seeing people on here going on about getting rid of him. OK - he might have made a few dodgy decisions this year but HE SAVED THE CLUB FOR GOD'S SAKE!
We'll probably go down, yes, but it does not warrant him being hung out to dry. Drive out to the outskirts of Brighton and look at what is being built. If it wasn't for Dick Knight and his cohorts NONE of this would be happening.
And if you want REAL proof of his worth to the club, look at his presenting skills on 'Dick Knight's 100 Greatest Albion Goals'. His cheeky ironic shrug of the shoulders is a master-class in acting. The man is a legend.
Behind Enemy Lines
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Knight must and should remain as Chairman. He has made mistakes of course he has - not appointing Coppell when we went up to the championship the first time round straight away, sacking McGhee, or did the Blooms force his and on that one? And it was a huge mistake by the CLUB not to explain why Wilkins was dismissed. That last point has been a PR disaster. Apart from " man management" issues none of us are any the wiser why he went and this has been especially damaging as the speculation has been virtually non stop ever since.
But we all know that Knight has delivered. The return to Withdean, the appointment of some very good, high profile managers: Horton, Adams (ist time), Taylor, Coppell and McGhee; back to back championships; Cardiff; Championship football and of course, Falmer. Those achievements are not to be sniffed at.
Now there are new challenges. With relegation odds on, the next full-time managerial appointment, Slade or whoever, is crucial as nothing less than immediate promotion will do. That means a clear out followed by the re-building of the squad and a shake up of the back-room/coaching staff.
But we all know that Knight has delivered. The return to Withdean, the appointment of some very good, high profile managers: Horton, Adams (ist time), Taylor, Coppell and McGhee; back to back championships; Cardiff; Championship football and of course, Falmer. Those achievements are not to be sniffed at.
Now there are new challenges. With relegation odds on, the next full-time managerial appointment, Slade or whoever, is crucial as nothing less than immediate promotion will do. That means a clear out followed by the re-building of the squad and a shake up of the back-room/coaching staff.
People say he saved the club once, but I think he has saved it many times. How often has Falmer looked like being defeated, delayed and scuppered over the last few years. There have been many a dark day SINCE 1997 when we all have thought that the Albion's time is up.
Every time they have been knocked down DK (and also the magnificent Martin Perry), have dusted themselves down, taken it on the chin, and fought back against the real scumbags who have consistently tried to destroy the club financially through petty appeals, delaying tactics and every other snide trick in the book. It has cost millions, diverted resources away from both the stadium (which has increased in price by £15-20 million since the first plans were created) and the team (as money has been diverted into paying legal costs that otherwise could have been spent on strengthening the squad).
Why has he done it, because he loves the Albion, just as we all do. If you want to moan about Wilkins dismissal by all means do so, but don't give him the degree of shit that he gets on here.
Every time they have been knocked down DK (and also the magnificent Martin Perry), have dusted themselves down, taken it on the chin, and fought back against the real scumbags who have consistently tried to destroy the club financially through petty appeals, delaying tactics and every other snide trick in the book. It has cost millions, diverted resources away from both the stadium (which has increased in price by £15-20 million since the first plans were created) and the team (as money has been diverted into paying legal costs that otherwise could have been spent on strengthening the squad).
Why has he done it, because he loves the Albion, just as we all do. If you want to moan about Wilkins dismissal by all means do so, but don't give him the degree of shit that he gets on here.
Behind Enemy Lines
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Not sure if you had my post in mind, but I don't think I'm "giving him shit". You're right that a lot of the criticism he gets on here is unthoughtful and knee jerk rubbish. I'm a Knight fan and continue to have confidence that he'll make the best decisions for the club. But the dismissal of Wilkins was baffling. I'm sure there might have been perfectly good reasons and things we don't know about which went on but the way it was dealt with wasn't good. I think it's fair to say that but let's move on.
I wasn't having a pop at you SG.
As for Wilkins, perhaps both sides have agreed to say nothing more in public and have agreed that in writing.
Therefore no matter how much gnashing of teeth of those who claim to know a version of the truth is going to get the information they crave for whatever agenda they have (and again I am not aiming any criticism at you SG).
murraymints4brighton
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lets remember people no knight no Mcghee or wilkins, oh wait a minute...