[Albion] Lee Mason at it again

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Walton said it was a foul, but not clear enough.
So if its a foul and not given thsts clear enough.

What wasn’t clear about it?

 

[dazzer6666]

 

[Peppermint Tea]

That was as clear and obvious as the fact that Lee Mason doesn’t own a comb.

He’s got more “controversies” in his biography than Jeremy Clarkson. He needs to be relieved of duties permanently. He’s just not fit for duty.

 

[Icy Gull]

He got the boot as a ref after the WBA non goal, so it wouldn’t be too cynical to think he was going to give us F all as VAR ref. Should not be appointed to VAR for any Albion games from now on. Pleased that RDZ let his feelings be known, being cheated needs calling out.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Brian Horton agrees

 

[Icy Gull]

Brian Horton agrees

I remember his constant chatting/berating of refs throughout games, I reckon he might have got sent off if he’d been playing yesterday such would have been the level of complaint from him.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

I remember his constant chatting/berating of refs throughout games, I reckon he might have got sent off if he’d been playing yesterday such would have been the level of complaint from him.

We are getting better at it though, largely thanks to Lallana.

 

[Triggaaar]

This is the kind of challenge that I wish wasn't a penalty but these are given all the time. I wonder if his going down easily (and fairly theatrically) affected the refs decision.

Reading that I get the impression you haven't seen what actually happened. On MOTD they zoom in on their feet and you can see Welb's foot being squashed into the ground. He couldn't have stayed up if he tried.

 

[big nuts]

I think Welbeck has felt contact and gone over incredibly easily. I can see why VAR didn’t overrule.

 

[KZNSeagull]

I think Welbeck has felt contact and gone over incredibly easily. I can see why VAR didn’t overrule.

If you want a glorious example of someone going down incredibly easily, the SEGW did an absolute belter yesterday. Tom Daley would have been proud. Then compare it with Welbeck.

 

[tigertim68]

I think Welbeck has felt contact and gone over incredibly easily. I can see why VAR didn’t overrule.

I have seen loads of var penalties given for a lot less contact

 

[Badger Boy]

I think Welbeck has felt contact and gone over incredibly easily. I can see why VAR didn’t overrule.

A welcome opinion. I've even gone back to watch the video a few times, I can't believe this thread and poll. There's nothing in it, hardly a sackable offence!

The one at Old Trafford was a sackable offence, obvious penalty there but this one? No.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Reading that I get the impression you haven't seen what actually happened. On MOTD they zoom in on their feet and you can see Welb's foot being squashed into the ground. He couldn't have stayed up if he tried.

Bad fish is making a different point and one that I have also made. The fall looked unnatural. The risk is the ref (rightly or wrongly) thinks he is being conned. Blame Grealish and all the other cheats for this. Not refs.

 

[Billy in Bristol]

BT
Sky
BBC

All of their pundits said penalty...

Can't all be wrong. Though Digne kicking March in the air in November was definitely one as well.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

If you want a glorious example of someone going down incredibly easily, the SEGW did an absolute belter yesterday. Tom Daley would have been proud. Then compare it with Welbeck.

But that doesn’t mean Welbeck didn’t go down easily.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

BT
Sky
BBC

All of their pundits said penalty...

Can't all be wrong. Though Digne kicking March in the air in November was definitely one as well.

No they can’t all be wrong…or right. It’s opinion.

 

[B-right-on]

I have seen loads of var penalties given for a lot less contact

Exactly. Can't remember which game it was but I think it was Veltman touching the back of a player at a corner who went down like he'd been pole axed and we got a pen against us.

The thing I don't get about VAR is that the broadcasters get different angles and sometimes better shots of the tackles than the officials.

If you are going to hinge a game on a decision (ok may or may not be in this case) then surely VAR should have many multiple cameras or access to the broadcasters cameras to get different angles.

 

[KZNSeagull]

But that doesn’t mean Welbeck didn’t go down easily.

Ok then. Personally, I tend to hop around and swear a lot if someone smacks my foot. Perhaps that would have been a better reaction.

"Went down too easily" is football pundit speak for "he dived/cheated". Welbeck did not do that.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Ok then. Personally, I tend to hop around and swear a lot if someone smacks my foot. Perhaps that would have been a better reaction.

"Went down too easily" is football pundit speak for "he dived/cheated". Welbeck did not do that.

Your reaction to such a challenge sounds reasonable. Welbeck didn’t hop around and swear though. He rolled over several times. Look I don’t think it’s a big deal but this thread accusing the officials of cheating is a bit of a joke.

 

[Swansman]

Don't think he went down easily, impossible or very difficult to keep balance in that situation. Can't say he fell discretely... but why would he?
Was definitely enough contact, understand how it wasn't seen in real time but if VAR is going to be around it better do what it is supposed to do.