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[Football] Leandro Trossard **Sold To Arsenal 20/01/2023**



Springal

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But it's being reported that Arsenal haven't even approached Brighton yet.
Not really - quite a few pretty reliable journos saying negotiations between clubs been going on last 24 hours or so
 




Rugrat

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Would be very happy to let him got for £20m+

No one wants a player that doesn't want to play for us and if we agree a deal at £26m i think that's good business for us and they get a decent squad player. Winners all round.
When I think Maupay £10m and Chris bloody Wood at £25m, then £20m is a bargain regardless. £40m is a more appropriate valuation but I guess we lose c£15m for 'spat' effect
 


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I think the most worrying thing is the fallout with the manager because if it can happen with Tross it can happen with anyone. Our firey Italian may for one reason or another not have the man management skills that Potter had.
Nonsense. Potter fell out with Ryan and Maupay and Cucurella handed in a transfer request.

My overall feeling on this is surprise at how little we've missed him. Would have been third or fourth name on my teamsheet at the start of the season. But with Mitoma, Sarmiento and now Buonanotte as succession plans I think we can cash in on a want-away 28 year old. I won't give him much grief on his return, he certainly gave us a bit more in terms of service than Marc "one season" Cucurella. Just a shame he seemed to hibernate in mid-winter.
 




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Not really - quite a few pretty reliable journos saying negotiations between clubs been going on last 24 hours or so
Every where I've seen and heard they have just started. Even so Brighton would not be showing their hand to anyone. It's not what we do.
 




Greg Bobkin

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I've no issue with him leaving – as I've said before, players and managers come and go and the model at the club certainly seems to be to maximise profits on players such as Trossard.

Also, there's clearly two sides to the story – or at least a clash of personalities. I'm not saying that either party did anything wrong (although going public was a bit of a gamble/silly move IMO), but I bet RDZ can be a nightmare for some players, which possibly hastened Trossard's departure.

Anyway, good luck to him and thanks for all the goals!
 


dazzer6666

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Disagree here, RdeZ is far from a 'fiery Italian' IMHO. Always comes across as a measured assessor sort of a bloke, albeit with demonstrable passion for what he does and is trying to do. Also the fact that Trossard allegedly told Lallana and Dunk to F off when they tried to reason with him, shows a more together attitude from all the other players. Trossard is out on his own here and deserves to be got rid of. No one bigger than the club and all that.


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I’d go with ‘calm and steely’…….in a ‘don’t think you can **** with me‘ kind of way.
 


Couldn't Be Hyypia

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This bench warming thing is a distraction. His career will be harmed if he is bench warming at Brighton. His career will not be harmed if he is doing it at Arsenal - esp if they win the League. Simply by being at Arsenal makes him a more "credible player" and show career progression (I know, but it's true). And he'll probably be bench warming for two or three times what he earns here.

His World Cup didn't work out, but his engineering of a move may well have done.
 




Da Man Clay

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None of them fell out with Potter or seemingly publicly criticised him though. They all got sold for huge amounts comparably
Trossard is also comfortably the worse of those players listed - and with minimum resale value given his age. He’d be going for huge amounts less if he had the long term contracts the majority of those were on too.
 


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Springal

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Unless it’s in our favour and we talk about how much we sold White, Cucurella & Bissouma for then 😂 or that Caicedo only cost us £4M or whatever
 




rippleman

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With so many quality youngsters (purchases and through the ranks), the last thing you need is a "senior pro" acting the waffle. It just sends a terrible message to the young 'uns and RDZ did right to call him out in front of the squad. RDZ has laid down his own marker that he won't tolerate twatting about. 100% behind RDZ.

Look at how Arsenal perked up the minute they kicked Aubameyang out. Not looked back. The improvement in Man Utd in general (and Rashford in particular) since the "long past sell by date" Ronaldo was elbowed out.

If you want to be a top 6 side, you can't carry disruptive dickheads.
 




Thunder Bolt

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I’d go with ‘calm and steely’…….in a ‘don’t think you can **** with me‘ kind of way.
He stayed with his players in Ukraine until they were all sorted, despite the invasion.
Rock steady is my impression.
 




Beach Hut

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Don't forget the Ulloa clause in this contract, if you win the league you pay a further £1m
 


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This bench warming thing is a distraction. His career will be harmed if he is bench warming at Brighton. His career will not be harmed if he is doing it at Arsenal - esp if they win the League. Simply by being at Arsenal makes him a more "credible player" and show career progression (I know, but it's true). And he'll probably be bench warming for two or three times what he earns here.

His World Cup didn't work out, but his engineering of a move may well have done.
I think that's true but isn't he on record saying he would only move if he still got regular football?
 


Swansman

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I think the most worrying thing is the fallout with the manager because if it can happen with Tross it can happen with anyone. Our firey Italian may for one reason or another not have the man management skills that Potter had.
Shit happens... not everyone gets along with everybody. Perhaps Trossard would fall out with GP as well given the circumstances, perhaps he wouldn't. Perhaps RDZ would be best buddies with Mat Ryan, Florin Andone or Ali Jahanbaksh that didn't like GP, or perhaps not.

No big deal. Bringing up the poor relations in media was a bad decision though as there's little point in telling everyone that relations have broken down (meaning the club will be eager to get rid of the player) since by any logical thinking it makes the club have a pretty poor position in any negotiation with a club that wants to buy him.
 


dwayne

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Arsenal are definitely in talks with trossy and Brighton.

Just the fee to be agreed and depending on whether other parties come forward.

This has been reported everywhere and is fairly reliable.

I'm fairly sure journos will have an understanding of what's being offered as well.
 






Green Cross Code Man

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Shit happens... not everyone gets along with everybody. Perhaps Trossard would fall out with GP as well given the circumstances, perhaps he wouldn't. Perhaps RDZ would be best buddies with Mat Ryan, Florin Andone or Ali Jahanbaksh that didn't like GP, or perhaps not.

No big deal. Bringing up the poor relations in media was a bad decision though as there's little point in telling everyone that relations have broken down (meaning the club will be eager to get rid of the player) since by any logical thinking it makes the club have a pretty poor position in any negotiation with a club that wants to buy him.
Yes, except that the club had little choice but to rebuff the agents nonsensical statement and instead put it's own side of the story out there.
 


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