[Football] Leandro Trossard **Sold To Arsenal 20/01/2023**

[PILTDOWN MAN]

I think the timing of the press conference left De Zerbi no option but to tell it as it is. Trossard was already on his way to Belgium. The hacks in the room would have been tipped off.

The press release from his agent was awful, very amateurish.

Trossard has always looked like his not a "team" player. It's obvious De Zerbi is a taskmaster and those that don't buy in are out. As today's statement says it's up to Trossard.

 

[Eric the meek]

Call me old fashioned, but if you sign a contract, you should stick to it, and not get your agent to offer you around for a better contract elsewhere.

 

[Springal]

Call me old fashioned, but if you sign a contract, you should stick to it, and not get your agent to offer you around for a better contract elsewhere.

How do you think we sign players ? We spent at least a year courting Alexis MacAllister

 

[Baldseagull]

Bloom sanctions decisions but the decisions are made by other people.

People need to stop assuming that bloom uses his poker playing skills to his advantage on every transfer matter. The weird pedestal that people have created for him is false unless you think losing player of the season and entire coaching team was blooms plan all along.

Maybe not the plan, but in being dealt what looked like a shit hand, the club couldn't have played it better and came out with £80M of Chelsea's money, Pervis Estupinan and Roberto De Zerbi, even the Colwill loan that I was not too impressed with has turned out to have been very useful too.
Ultimately, it is Bloom, even if it is only that he hires the guys that make the good decisions, but where a valuable asset to the club, and tens of millions of pounds is involved, I think TB is very much involved, I f***ing would be if it was my money.

 

[luge]

I understand him wanting a CL move too. Which is all the more odd. Because all he had to do was wait out another few months, playfully in a good team that's in form and he would have waltzed out to a CL club in the summer with applause ringing in his ears. All he had to do was not be a dickhead for 5 months. It seems he couldn't manage it.

Part of me also wonders whether his heads gone at the emergence of Mitoma and Ferguson.

Only he and the club know i suppose. But the psychology is so weird.

Football has moved on from 10 years ago, and Brighton have been very open about realising publicly where they are in the food chain.

There must have been approaches which have been knocked back i suppose.

 

[trueblue]

A lot of speculation around LT but he's courted controversy from the word go with comments from his agent like 'he's using Albion as a stepping stone to bigger clubs'. I don't have a problem with that however I think there are ways of doing it without alienating yourself from the club and fans. I'm not sure Tross hasn't peaked a bit later than he hoped (in his contract and career). Put simply the club aren't just going to give him away, it's business sense and I'm happy without knowing the full details to believe Tony and Paul are standing firm on this. I'd like to see him playing positively until he inevitably leaves however, I don't want to see the likes of clubs such as money bags Newcastle picking him up for nothing. As an aside I've never warmed to Tross much as he's always appeared to think he was better than Brighton, just a feeling on that without too much tangible evidence.

I have a bit of a problem with that when it happens immediately. In return for their £60,000 a week, players should at least show a bit of respect for the club they've joined. Overall, no problem with Leo though. He's been a fine player for us on his day. Has the talent to put in much better performances week-in, week-out. An attacking team at the Amex would seem to be the perfect place to fulfil his potential rather than the much more pressured environment of a richer club but I suppose he wants his pay-day. I expect a desire for European football will be the argument - which could be possible here next season, if everyone knuckles down and there aren't any bellends sulking because they think they're better than the rest.

 

[Horses Arse]

I have no issue with Tross going now, if the money's ok.
I suspect the issue is that the agent isn't able to convince Spurs/Atleti to come up with a decent enough offer.

Trying to force Tony to accept a lowball offer, is never going to work.

Player with poor attitude and not giving his all at training joins atleti? Not sure that's a good fit

 

[b.w.2.]

Cannot believe Tross and his agent have done this. As has been said, he has contributed big time, he could have just waited for the offers in Jan and, as necessary, the summer, then left a hero. Instead, he looks a d1ck and potential suitors will be put off by his/ his agent’s moronic behaviour.

 

[Oh_aye]

Love this rather hopeful (I thought) quote from RDZ though - and what some of us have been saying about the media and chat forums having a field day and giving it more significance because of the window, rings true and you can totally see RDZ having an emotional coaching style even by watching him in the dugout.

“De Zerbi said "problems" such as that currently involving Trossard were fairly commonplace.

He added: "I think we're giving too much importance to something that is normally happening in the dressing rooms of every club in the world.

"I was a player and a lot of times I had these kinds of problems and maybe through this happening the relationship later on will be much stronger, but I'm working in this way.”

He also said

"“My office is, was and will be open for all players and for all people.”

So I'm going to pop down on Monday and have a chat.

 

[trueblue]

I understand him wanting a CL move too. Which is all the more odd. Because all he had to do was wait out another few months, playfully in a good team that's in form and he would have waltzed out to a CL club in the summer with applause ringing in his ears. All he had to do was not be a dickhead for 5 months. It seems he couldn't manage it.

Part of me also wonders whether his heads gone at the emergence of Mitoma and Ferguson.

I suppose the emergence of those two is the threat to his big summer move. Mitoma is a more dangerous left winger. Ferguson is a raw but 'proper' front man with huge potential. Lallana is better in the hole. Mac Allister too. Gross can play there. Leo may well have ended up a bit part player for the rest of the campaign, particularly if he's not going to put the effort in. Hence, the desperation to get out now.

 

[GrizzlingGammon]

Not sure what to think here, but, I'm defo on RDZ side. I do not like players who throw tantrums when it doesn't go their way. Shame, I really liked Trossard. We are absolutely fine without him though, weaker yes, but fine. Buzzing to see the new Argie. If he goes to Chelsea, he will get dogs abuse, and rightly so.

If any player started acting like a petulant child, I'd be in the f*** off camp.

Trossard doesn't strike me as someone who would cope well with the crowd constantly at him.

 

[Lifelong Supporter]

Until now I believe we have been tolerant of LT's wide disparity in performance in the knowledge that he will, by his skill, win enough games to keep us out of relegation trouble. Things have changed a little bit now in that we are increasingly seeing ourselves as a middle of the table side looking to advance higher. Thus we are being less indulgent towards LT at a time when his agent is becoming more active in actions he believes are to LT's financial best interest.

I see a problem for LT is that he is wildly inconsistent and at a top 6 club he would not be able to keep his place performing that way. He might be good enough for Spurs to buy him but as Biss has found he will meet new challenges. For one thing he is not going to get Harry Kane doing the running for him. He is going to need to get on his bike there or get hooked early doors there. He would certainly learn that the 'respect' to which he and his agent refers needs to work both ways. You need to give it to receive it. Mr Z has shown he will tolerate players acting for themselves rather than the team and it is a refreshing approach, one to be welcomed.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

How do you think we sign players ? We spent at least a year courting Alexis MacAllister

Purvis said similar in an interview.

 

[GrizzlingGammon]

I understand him wanting a CL move too. Which is all the more odd. Because all he had to do was wait out another few months, playfully in a good team that's in form and he would have waltzed out to a CL club in the summer with applause ringing in his ears. All he had to do was not be a dickhead for 5 months. It seems he couldn't manage it.

Part of me also wonders whether his heads gone at the emergence of Mitoma and Ferguson.

After he went home very early with splinters in his arse from the World Cup, maybe he is also jealous of World Cup winner Mac Allister.

 

[Stat Brother]

Trossard doesn't strike me as someone who would cope well with the crowd constantly at him.

You're ruling out Chelsea then.

 

[Oh_aye]

Until now I believe we have been tolerant of LT's wide disparity in performance in the knowledge that he will, by his skill, win enough games to keep us out of relegation trouble. Things have changed a little bit now in that we are increasingly seeing ourselves as a middle of the table side looking to advance higher. Thus we are being less indulgent towards LT at a time when his agent is becoming more active in actions he believes are to LT's financial best interest.

I see a problem for LT is that he is wildly inconsistent and at a top 6 club he would not be able to keep his place performing that way. He might be good enough for Spurs to buy him but as Biss has found he will meet new challenges. For one thing he is not going to get Harry Kane doing the running for him. He is going to need to get on his bike there or get hooked early doors there. He would certainly learn that the 'respect' to which he and his agent refers needs to work both ways. You need to give it to receive it. Mr Z has shown he will tolerate players acting for themselves rather than the team and it is a refreshing approach, one to be welcomed.

I'm not so sure about Spurs. Is he going to oust Son, Richarlison, Kane, Kulusevski? He's miles behind them. With the guy they bought off Fulham he'll be comfortably 4th or 5 choice. Also a slightly mardy 28 doesn't really seem like their profile. You'd imagine given the way this is how he's chosen to exit that unforgiving taskmasters like Conte or Simeone would be the last sort of managers who'd want him.

I can see Newcastle throwing money at him. But if he doesn't like the weather in Brighton....

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

He also said

"“My office is, was and will be open for all players and for all people.”

So I'm going to pop down on Monday and have a chat.

He could be busy Monday, when we all turn up

 

[Kosh]

Bloom sanctions decisions but the decisions are made by other people.

People need to stop assuming that bloom uses his poker playing skills to his advantage on every transfer matter. The weird pedestal that people have created for him is false unless you think losing player of the season and entire coaching team was blooms plan all along.

Indeed, I suspect others are far more involved in the actual fee negotiation... Tony certainly drives the ethos/standards but he’s not going to be speaking directly with anyone... why people think this is the case is beyond me.

He employs a brilliant team to handle the poker playing side of player sales, every player has a value ... tbh, it’s not that difficult to stay strong and realise what you want from the majority of transfers, providing the contract length is long enough.

This one, if it comes to it, will not see us cream much beyond 20 million imho... the circumstances are awful and the timing shite... he’s off and we might be more united for it.

 

[Oh_aye]

He could be busy Monday, when we all turn up

See you there! "Alright Robbie mate, I'm having a a few problems with the wife, any chance of a quick chat?"

 

[Eric the meek]

How do you think we sign players ? We spent at least a year courting Alexis MacAllister

This isn't about the bigger picture. This is about an individual player misbehaving.

I don't see MacAllister behaving in the way that Trossard has conducted himself. His actions have resulted in a real mess, with the media having a feeding frenzy.