Late Kick-Off

[kevo]

South & SW version better, but not by much. At least they had the build up to the third, and Kaz's reaction was priceless when Ulloa smashed it in.

It was definitely better - on iPlayer here:

BBC iPlayer - Late Kick Off South, South West and West: 2013: Episode 2

How come a region that includes both teams, and the majority of our fans, gets a worse version?!

 

[Tooting Gull]

I've just watched that South-West version, and it is miles better, a different (and much better) commentator in Jon Roder, more highlights, just more polished and professional all round. Plus not that sulky t*sser Bright.

What is the point in not showing that version in the region where both clubs actually are?

 

[JBizzleBeard]

I thought Mad Dog was looking like Quagmire from Family Guy last night.

 

[kevo]

I've just watched that South-West version, and it is miles better, a different (and much better) commentator in Jon Roder, more highlights, just more polished and professional all round. Plus not that sulky t*sser Bright.

What is the point in not showing that version in the region where both clubs actually are?

It's also bizarre that the BBC should produce TWO different versions of the same match, with different commentators. Why on earth would they do that? Very odd.

 

[Basil Fawlty]

Atrocious Commentary and appalling Highlights. What a joke Late Kick-Off really is......

 

[BensGrandad]

Just watched the SW version on I player and so much better made so by James Beattie and Ade Williams as opposed to that idiot Bright.

 

[trueblue]

It's also bizarre that the BBC should produce TWO different versions of the same match, with different commentators. Why on earth would they do that? Very odd.

It's not made centrally. Each programme was out out to tender with production companies competing for the contract (John Roder and Andy Steggall actually make the South version, I believe). The budget for the programme is tiny - especially when you consider the companies involved are trying to make a profit. But that doesn't excuse the South East item - the most badly-edited 'professional' TV coverage I've ever seen by some distance.

 

[BensGrandad]

The London one will obviously be biased towards a London club to keep their viewers happy but to have a Palace employee on who was supposed to be neutral is going to far.

 

[Thimble Keegan]

Late in posting this but I specifically recorded the Hampshire biased Meridian Tonight to check out what they had to say and it was shocking!

They gave it a decent enough build-up but then rattled through the goals pretty quickly but that was not the worst of it. When they do their highlights package when they move from one game to the next they flash the badge of the club they are featuring across the screen then show that teams goals. But I kid you not, for our second goal, Ulloa's shot had not even hit the net when the Southampton badge was already visible on screen!

Surely they could not be that pushed for time that they cannot spare us just 1 extra second?!

Albion & England forever.

Thimble Keegan
Littlehampton BHA

 

[LamieRobertson]

Just as an aside one of the presenters on Monday Night Club on radio five said 'it was the performance of the weekend'

 

[Marxo]

It was definitely better - on iPlayer here:

BBC iPlayer - Late Kick Off South, South West and West: 2013: Episode 2

How come a region that includes both teams, and the majority of our fans, gets a worse version?!

Thanks for the link, that was so much better than the other version, I really enjoyed that.

 

[kevo]

It's not made centrally. Each programme was out out to tender with production companies competing for the contract (John Roder and Andy Steggall actually make the South version, I believe). The budget for the programme is tiny - especially when you consider the companies involved are trying to make a profit. But that doesn't excuse the South East item - the most badly-edited 'professional' TV coverage I've ever seen by some distance.

Yes. but you'd have thought when it comes to actually showing match highlights that at least could be done centrally. No wonder the BBC loses so much money.

I like the way they got the club to promote the show beforehand (including at the match), saying they would be showing 'extended highlights' of the game. What exactly did they mean by 'extended'? Incredible.

And not only was it unprofessionally edited, to actually miss the build up to the brilliant third goal was woeful. What a load of ****!

The South version is a whole load better.

 

[Bob!]

Sake, not even the full build up to the 3rd goal.

No build up play shown in any of the goals FFS , the build up to the 3rd goal was brilliant

I recorded South East & South.

South edited it better, and included the build up to goal 3.

 

[trueblue]

Yes. but you'd have thought when it comes to actually showing match highlights that at least could be done centrally. No wonder the BBC loses so much money.

It wouldn't really cost any more than usual to have two edits - the editor would have to be there anyway to put the other items together. The match coverage itself is centralised so there's no new cost there and the commentary would almost certainly just be post-dubbed (in the south case by John Roder, who part-owns the production company and so wouldn't be getting a separate fee as such).

Each show would require the flexibility to cut their own version anyway, to fit with the time they had available. So even if you provided one central edit, one show would almost certainly still end up removing or adding bits.

 

[kevo]

It wouldn't really cost any more than usual to have two edits - the editor would have to be there anyway to put the other items together. The match coverage itself is centralised so there's no new cost there and the commentary would almost certainly just be post-dubbed (in the south case by John Roder, who part-owns the production company and so wouldn't be getting a separate fee as such).

Each show would require the flexibility to cut their own version anyway, to fit with the time they had available. So even if you provided one central edit, one show would almost certainly still end up removing or adding bits.

The editing for the SE version was terrible - very, very amateur. You'd have thought if they include match highlights they could each broadcast a fixed length and build the rest of the show around it, ie one less tedious comment from Mark 'can't-stand-Bright(on)'