Oh is there another TV debate tonight then, who won??
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Weststander
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Definitely. Votes won’t be swayed by these meet voters meets leader Q&A’s. Just interesting to me that Bruce wasn’t even handed across all 4 leaders.
oldboyroy
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Lots of hassle for Rishi there
Apparently the first one was watched by 2m less than the first one in 2019
Yes, that’s a big concern. Many say Laura K is incredibly biased towards the Tories.
Surrey Phil
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- Aug 3, 2010
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Thought the audience was very biased and then I realised it was in Yorkshire!
Weststander
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Starmer too …. his prior Corbyn backing, transgender, changes of mind, his sums won’t clear NHS lists.
Was there a demonstration after the mic was dimmed and credits broadcast at the end? Males voices shouting, silhouettes of folk moving around.
Weststander
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I still like her. Probably last nsc’er to do so.
Weststander
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Not your guy!
Farage wasn’t there.
oldboyroy
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There were lots of audience voices (maybe shouts)?
Indeed. They’ve put him on with the Greens at a later date. I don’t think he is thrilled with that!
Maybe it was him protesting at the end?
I didn’t even vote for that back to front when he was in the Jungle pmsl
On my way home after watching Sussex convincingly beat Kent.
Not watching any of these debates as the media are appalling at covering politics nowadays (on all sides).
The danger is that they play into this ‘Labour have already won’ narrative which is a load of balls.
Unfortunately, all politicians are hamstrung by having to appeal to a very narrow cabal of media owners which is why we get cartoon politics and naive debate.
Not watching any of these debates as the media are appalling at covering politics nowadays (on all sides).
The danger is that they play into this ‘Labour have already won’ narrative which is a load of balls.
Unfortunately, all politicians are hamstrung by having to appeal to a very narrow cabal of media owners which is why we get cartoon politics and naive debate.
I do worry about the questions being asked and who is setting the agenda.
Asking Davy about student loans, Starmer about Corbyn and Rishi about Liz Truss just seemed an absolute waste of time. We knew what the answers would be on all of these issues, we’ve heard them so many times before.
Meanwhile there were so many big issues that affect people everyday not covered. It’s very frustrating and just puts people off politics.
Weststander
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Very true. Sh1t stirring/grandstanding by the news channels and ‘big hitter’ presenters. Raking over coals.
Looks like we’ve gone down the US route.
Similarly, an obsession with polls over discussion on real world issues, which might end up influencing results. Not Tory paranoia, this was also mentioned in 2019. Herd instinct … some marginal voters opt for the seemingly winning side to be part of it.
clapham_gull
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- Aug 20, 2003
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Yes, it's incredibly frustrating and without historical context.
I couldn't give a f@@@ who propped up who in the past, that's politics. I also couldn't give a toss whether they have changed their mind on certain issues.
You need to see them hammered on their policies and an audience vote at the end of each question on whether they answered the question or not.
If they refuse to answer it, move on, It wastes so much time in these debates.
Weststander
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Fiona Bruce types wanting to appear like peak Paxman. Eating into the 25 minutes.
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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Another leader's Q&A session on QT tonight, the key takeaway is no errors from Starmer. I fast forwarded the second half of Swinney, he's OK but nowhere near as impressive as SNP Westminster leader Stephen Flynn.
I'd say all 3 main leaders scored a solid 7/10, but for Rishi that isn't good enough. Apparently freeports are a Brexit benefit - who knew? He is feistier and more sure of himself but constantly events conspire against him, be it the D Day disaster or tonight's election date betting scandal.
I'd say all 3 main leaders scored a solid 7/10, but for Rishi that isn't good enough. Apparently freeports are a Brexit benefit - who knew? He is feistier and more sure of himself but constantly events conspire against him, be it the D Day disaster or tonight's election date betting scandal.