Labour lead in polls,anyone able explain why ?

[Deleted member 22389]

Did any of those three go to public school?

Milliband attended a normal school
Balls and Chukka where sent to private schools.

 

[spring hall convert]

one thing I do know is the Greens will be kicked out of Brighton

I suspect they won't. In fact, if anything, I suspect Caroline Lucas will increase her majority.

Out of interest, do you live in her constituency?

 

[Worthingite]

I think the biggest problem with all three parties, is the massive sense of disconnect that they have with the majority of the populace. Milliband, Cameron and Clegg are all unblinking, thought free robots, puppets who's every public utterance is controlled by the PR and spin merchants. They have little to no knowledge of what happens in the real world.
The reason why Nigel Farage has done as well as he has is purely down to the fact that he has attempted to strike a chord with the "regular" public, and has talked about issues that the electorate want to talk about. Whether this is down to incredibly clever PR people, or it is actually him, I'm not sure - but I just want to see a party leader talking like a regular person, instead of speaking in clichéd buzzword bullsh*t.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

I think the biggest problem with all three parties, is the massive sense of disconnect that they have with the majority of the populace. Milliband, Cameron and Clegg are all unblinking, thought free robots, puppets who's every public utterance is controlled by the PR and spin merchants. They have little to no knowledge of what happens in the real world.
The reason why Nigel Farage has done as well as he has is purely down to the fact that he has attempted to strike a chord with the "regular" public, and has talked about issues that the electorate want to talk about. Whether this is down to incredibly clever PR people, or it is actually him, I'm not sure - but I just want to see a party leader talking like a regular person, instead of speaking in clichéd buzzword bullsh*t.

That is Farage. He has been telling the truth for years.

 

[Buzzer]

I suspect they won't. In fact, if anything, I suspect Caroline Lucas will increase her majority.

Out of interest, do you live in her constituency?

I thought he was referring to the council. If so, then I agree with [MENTION=12643]The Birdman[/MENTION] - I think they will get hammered in the next local elections and rightly so. The Greens have been nothing short of a shambles. However, like you, I hope that Lucas retains her seat regardless of the local party or her political views. As others have said, she's been a fantastic local MP - and yes, I live in her constituency.

 

[Machiavelli]

Problem is, Duncan isn't the only idiot in the Green ranks - Kitcat, Hawtree, Ms Kitcat ( apparently we're inbreds ), Bowden, Davey, Deane, MacCafferty - all have made absolutely stupid comments over the lifetime of this council. Either directly via twitter / social media or during council debates. None, IMO, electable.

What have Davey and Bowden said that would qualify as an 'absolutely stupid comment'? Not so sure that Deane or either of the Kitcats are prone to idiocy either.

 

[Machiavelli]

I suspect they won't. In fact, if anything, I suspect Caroline Lucas will increase her majority.

Out of interest, do you live in her constituency?

Think you're right about Lucas, but the Greens will lose a lot of their councillors, probably half of them. Labour will probably come out on top in the locals, but they may need to form a coalition, and the question is will they do so with the Greens?

 

[Deleted member 22389]

I suppose if Labour get in they will make it illegal to critise immigration like they are doing in Sweden. Don't believe me, look online.

 

[El Presidente]

Public School - University - MP's bag carrier - Special Adviser - MP - Junior Minister - Cabinet Minister

How can anyone of either party have a clue about ordinary peoples lives ?

I don't think you're ordinary ENREST x

 

[El Presidente]

Don't believe me.

It's okay, I've been doing that since your first post.

 

[Pavilionaire]

And had the tories been in power in 2008 then the roles would have been reversed. It was a global recession.

In which case it's one hell of a coincidence how Labour always manage to leave government with the country in economic dire straits.

 

[Bold Seagull]

In which case it's one hell of a coincidence how Labour always manage to leave government with the country in economic dire straits.

Do most governments not leave under some sort of cloud whether economic or otherwise? Otherwise they get re-elected….

 

[spring hall convert]

UKIP holds the aces

Not they don't.

They mobilised a vote for a European election which the vast majority of the UK populus (35% turnout) doesn't care about at all.

They currently don't have a seat in Westminster and even the most wildly optimisitic commentator isn't predicting anything in double figures. Personally I think Mr. Farage amy win a seat himself, perhaps the deputy leader Nutall but that'll be about it. 5 seats maximum - makes them about as important as Plaid Cymru and less important than the SNP, should th SNP still be contesting Westminster elections by then.

 

[spring hall convert]

I thought he was referring to the council. If so, then I agree with [MENTION=12643]The Birdman[/MENTION] - I think they will get hammered in the next local elections and rightly so. The Greens have been nothing short of a shambles. However, like you, I hope that Lucas retains her seat regardless of the local party or her political views. As others have said, she's been a fantastic local MP - and yes, I live in her constituency.

I thought the same but it appeared to me that this thread was about national politics/ Westminster.

I suspect you are right about the local elections, though it hasn't been all bad. There's been alot of major infrasrututre work completed under this council that was previoously debated for aeons (Brighton Station, 7 Dials, The Level, Open Market etc....) but never got anywhere.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Do most governments not leave under some sort of cloud whether economic or otherwise? Otherwise they get re-elected….

The economy was in a reasonable state in 1997 when Blair took over. This is my point.

 

[spring hall convert]

It won't take long for Marxist Mill to totally wreck the country, people have political memory loss at times.

"Greenest Government Ever." "No top -down re-oginisation of the NHS." "All in it together."

Mr. Cameron sure forgot about those.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

I thought the same but it appeared to me that this thread was about national politics/ Westminster.

I suspect you are right about the local elections, though it hasn't been all bad. There's been alot of major infrasrututre work completed under this council that was previoously debated for aeons (Brighton Station, 7 Dials, The Level, Open Market etc....) but never got anywhere.

Was Lewes Road a deliberate exclusion ?

 

[larus]

And had the tories been in power in 2008 then the roles would have been reversed. It was a global recession.

Yes, it was a global recession, but Brown ran a DEFICIT in the BOOM years. PRUDENT? Complete f***ing w***er he was, and Balls was his sidekick. But, hey, don't let simple things like FACTS stand in the way of your prejudice.

 

[spring hall convert]

Surely peoples memories are not that short that they would vote Labour again. I think they will ruin this country they almost succeeded last time.

Or maybe peoples memories are long enough to remember;

- Openly homophobic legislation in our schools
- Institutionalised racism in the Met
- Black Monday
- Poll Tax Riots
- John Major
- The miners strike
- Irish terrorism

The fact that the Tories haven't repealed all the legislation that the last Government brought in surrounding equality. Does this mean Labour got it right? If so why did the Tories spend 18 years denying rights to homosexuals, females, ethnic minorities etc...?

- Labour's record on the economy isn't great.
- The Tories record on social cohesion and equality is scandalous. Are you seriously asking me to support a party that until very recently still thought homosexuality was wrong?

 

[spring hall convert]

Was Lewes Road a deliberate exclusion ?

Truthfully I haven't seen it - don't have reason to go out that way on the roads often and when I do it is never at peak times.