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[Football] Klopp



A1X

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Not sure why he chose he chance to launch a personal attack on Gary Neville though.

Sounded to me like an attempt to deflect attention back onto one of the ultimate Liverpool FC villains around.
 




B-right-on

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The way I read it, rightly or wrongly, is that Klopp will not be a part of this if it happens. However, he has shown commitment to the players and fans of Liverpool. He is no fan of UEFA and no fan of the Super League.

I thought he made it very clear in the post match press conference (not the Sky interview) that if his bosses tell him to play in the ESL, he will. His job is to manage LFC and not decide where they play.

He was getting pissed at being told what to do and the attacks on his players.
 


Mike Small

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Not sure why he chose he chance to launch a personal attack on Gary Neville though.

Agree. It was as if he needed to lash out. He is a snappy character but also think that he is brilliant and he spoke well last night. Neville is also a class act imo. I think he ruffled Klopp by him having a go at the YNWA motto on Sunday. He probably shouldn't have as his problem is with the owners but then again Klopp didn't have to get so upset about it. Anyway it's about the bloody owners, not the managers and players (yet).
 


Bry Nylon

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Still, at least we finally know what "This Means More" means.
 


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The EPL, the FA and UEFA need to make it clear to the splitters that if they do,it, they will not be eligible for domestic competitions, or UEFA competitions. Then the remaining sides in European league football get to battle it out for the Premier League title, La Liga, the FA Cup, the European Cup etc. OK so there will be less money, the money the sponsors pay will go down, so you tell the players that they’re getting a pay cut, you know, instead of earning £100K a week you’re going to earn just £50K a week. There can still be 20 teams in the top flight, with the CL for the top 4 to aim for, the stadiums will still be sold out week in and week out, the prize money might be a bit less, perhaps as low as it was in 2015, but I reckon, if they cut their cloth correctly they could survive on it.

.....so you tell the players that they’re getting a pay cut .....
.... and therein lies the fatal flaw in that plan. Sadly - I'd be 100% in favour, myself.
 




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“Sport is not a sport when the success is guaranteed, and when the relation between the effort and reward don’t exist.

'It’s not a sport when it doesn’t matter if you lose.

'It's not fair if teams fight at the top and cannot qualify” - Pep Guardiola.
 


martin tyler

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Pep speaking well and against closed competition or any sport where the relationship of effort and reward doesn’t exist.
I find it bizarre that none of these managers or players have been asked about it. They all appear to be as clueless as us and it’s like the boards of all these clubs have disappeared on a group vacation on a private island hoping never to be asked a question. Leaving it up to faces that people know to him take the heat.

Despite his absolute garbage of an interview the only owner who has come forward is Perez. And frankly it was the bumbling rambles of a senile old man wanting one last big pay day
 


Pavilionaire

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I watched Klopp last night and he did NOT come out explicitly against the ESL concept.

He chose his words carefully, and conceded that competition is a crucial part of the integrity of sport, but he did not say he wouldn't manage a team in the ESL, or that it was wrong for his players to play in the ESL (James Milner was far more explicit about it after the game). Klopp was also respectful of his employers and did not condemn them, even though he had grounds to do so.

Klopp is one of the world's best managers and so it is highly likely he will manage in the ESL if it goes ahead.
 




Seasider78

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I watched Klopp last night and he did NOT come out explicitly against the ESL concept.

He chose his words carefully, and conceded that competition is a crucial part of the integrity of sport, but he did not say he wouldn't manage a team in the ESL, or that it was wrong for his players to play in the ESL (James Milner was far more explicit about it after the game). Klopp was also respectful of his employers and did not condemn them, even though he had grounds to do so.

Klopp is one of the world's best managers and so it is highly likely he will manage in the ESL if it goes ahead.

Players and managers getting far too easy a ride here IMO, where are the players and managers side by side with the rest of football standing against this? Like pay cuts in the pandemic we will see them sitting on the sidelines waiting to see where the money goes. Let’s see how the weeks pan out but if these corporate and on the fence comments continue and the PFA and LMA do not stand up then as far as I am concerned they are complicit in this.

This is bigger than their own self interests
 


Pavilionaire

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“Sport is not a sport when the success is guaranteed, and when the relation between the effort and reward don’t exist.

'It’s not a sport when it doesn’t matter if you lose.

'It's not fair if teams fight at the top and cannot qualify” - Pep Guardiola.

It is interesting that American owners are some of the drivers for the ESL, a country where the concept of "tanking", i.e. intentionally losing in order to get the best draft picks, is commonplace.
 






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