Kidney Stones - Advice

[chucky1973]

I would recommend reading some of Brunswick's other posts before you take any advice from him. He's being anti something because he likes to be the underdog rather than because of any particular scientifically proved benefits (of course he'll be along to post a youtube video to prove me wrong shortly, but I don't feed trolls so I will be ignoring if, please all do the same or he'll keep going forever)

Having had kidney stones, I agree with everyone else saying take the Diclofenec and be done with it, it may well be excruciatingly painful if you do not. I've not noticed any side effects with them anyway so hopefully you won't either. Drink as much water as you can possibly manage (I found I could get through about 4 litres a day comfortably. I was in the toilet all day, but I wasn't in pain and that was the main thing) Alcohol is probably a bad idea while on painkillers as it may reduce the effectiveness.

Different things cause them in different people but the common causes are under consumption of water or over consumption of tea, leafy green vegetables and chocolate so it'd be wise to moderate any of those if you eat/drink a lot of them. I used to get through about 10 cups of tea a day so that was probably it for me, I've switched to green tea most of the time and a couple of cups of Tetley a day instead now and so far, nothing's come back.

cheers, I will take the tablets, and only drink coffee, about 4 cups of black a day, so will knock 3 of those on the head now (need the 1st one to get me going!!)

 

[Castello]

When you're doubled up in agonising pain later, and you have a choice of the prescribed painkillers, or Brunswick's herbal remedies, you'll be in the perfect position to make an informed choice

I don't think i could make this point more articulately !

I would ask brunswick how many years hes spent studying or practising medicine or anatomy, and then compare it with the many years your doctor has spent doing this, and wonder exactly who would best qualify as a "quack".

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

ha ha had one, HAD A STENT FITTED SO I COULD PISS IT OUT, GUESS WHAT THE STENT CAME OUT AND NOT THE STONE , ended up in Guys hospital in London for ultra sound blasting, WHOLE THING TOOK MONTHS TO SORT OUT

 

[penny's harmonica]

I had one last year. After being sent home by my doctor because there was' nothing wrong with me' ended up in a and e where i recieved much needed fantastic drugs. Eventually I passed it naturally although I never felt it. Had symptoms for around 2 weeks before the real pain started, which went on around 5 days. Never had pain like it and I sympathise but my advice is 1.Take anything the doctors prescribe as you will need all the help you can get especially the pain killers 2. I spoke to the consultant re. kidney cleanse and his opinion was they were a waste of time so I wouldn't put yourself through it. Best of luck

 

[chucky1973]

ha ha had one, HAD A STENT FITTED SO I COULD PISS IT OUT, GUESS WHAT THE STENT CAME OUT AND NOT THE STONE , ended up in Guys hospital in London for ultra sound blasting, WHOLE THING TOOK MONTHS TO SORT OUT

thanks

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

thanks

maybe i was unlucky .

 

[chucky1973]

maybe i was unlucky .

I hope so!!! Pain is say 4-5 out of 10 at the moment and comes and goes, cant deal with that for "months"!!

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

I hope so!!! Pain is say 4-5 out of 10 at the moment and comes and goes, cant deal with that for "months"!!

renal cholic mate , keep on the pain killers ?

 

[fruitnveg]

I hope so!!! Pain is say 4-5 out of 10 at the moment and comes and goes, cant deal with that for "months"!!

You've seen nothing yet, unfortunately. Keep up with the water, take the pain killers when needed and you'll be golden in no time, hopefully with minimal suffering along the route.

 

[sydney]

i would try bottled water mate .....water around our way has a lot of chalk in it which i think contributes to the problem........do whatever the docs tell ya ..they will have plenty of experience in kidney stones ...innit.

 

[JBizzleBeard]

Urgh! I sympathise with you. Check this thread out: Kidney stones

 

[sydney]

have you tried wanking them out son...

 

[fozzie's paper boy]

Had them 5 times now and currently waiting for an op to get rid of the latest batch. They form in the kidney for various reasons as previous posters have mentioned. Whilst they stay put in the kidney they're not much trouble, the problem comes when they decide to move from the kidney to bladder via the uretha (a very small tube). The excruciating pain described occurs when the stone passes through the uretha - once through the stones then tend to break up in the bladder, and you piss them away - I just had mild discomfort from that.

If you're at 4-5 out of 10 for pain, then sounds like your stone might be on the move, if so then the pain will get to 10 believe me, and in my experience that will happen fairly swiftly (in the next 3-4 hours). At that point you need to be in A&E on good drugs - Voltarol or morphine have done the trick for me in the past.

If it's not on the move and you're just getting occasional pain you may need to have them removed, once they've formed then they don't tend to go away even if you're doing all the very sensible things suggested including drinking lots of water. If so then they can give you ultrasound treatment (basically blast them to bits), or they can do a keyhole op and fish them out. You're GP would need to refer you to the local renal consultant - if you're in Brighton then Andrew Symes is the key man up at the Sussex.

Good luck, don't envy you.

 

[chucky1973]

At a guess the prescription is Dicolfenac. If that's the case, I'd recommend taking them, from experience.

thats the kiddies. Gonna start them tomorrow, hopefully will kick in soon.

 

[Seagull on the wing]

Although not kidney stones,spent 8 years dialysis before a transplant...kidney pain is not nice...never been one for drinking lots of water but do have cups of hot water,lemon,one spoonful of sugar....have'nt had problems since....but one mans meat......

 

[Codner pharmaceuticals]

totally - type into google "natural pain killers" and you will find lots of foods. the pharma crew want your money, not your health.

Because anyone making a claim on a website has to go through the same standards of clinical trials as pharma right?

 

[Muzzy]

thats the kiddies. Gonna start them tomorrow, hopefully will kick in soon.

Be careful with Dicolfenac (Diclofenac, I think is what you mean... I may be wrong). If I'm right then your Dr should have given you Omeprazole to take with them because they are not good for you if you take them for a long period of time... Omeprazole are usually given to counteract the problems that Diclofenac can cause, e.g nausea and cramps! I believe that Diclofenac are given as an anti inflammatory if that's what you have been prescribed... Wish you a speedy recovery mate.

 

[rrruss]

Had several lots of lithotripsy treatment 8-10 years ago. The team at Guys did something wrong because I had a horrendous month afterwards. The rest of my treatment was at Newport, Gwent, a hospital with a dreadful reputation, but they were fantastic and I would go there again if I needed treatment again. That's how I found out I like morphine!!

My nephrologist told me that I could drink alcohol because all he wanted was vast quantities of fluid passing through the kidneys. He did warn me that the hepatologists would probably have a different view though.

I was also told that the likelihood of recurrence was great because I was in my early 30s. If I had been in my late 40s they wouldn't have been quite so concerned. Full dietary analysis did not reveal a cause. If anything, I don't get enough calcium in my diet which was a surprise to them. I now drink substantially more water every day than I did before but I'm still not very good at it and a nagging wife helps!!!!! Even so, I know I still have a stone in each kidney but whilst it's not on the move, I can live with it.

 

[brunswick]

Because anyone making a claim on a website has to go through the same standards of clinical trials as pharma right?

with the FDA and WHO behind most of these tests, it makes them less clinical, and more profitable.

 

[BLOCK F]

if its 4 weeks I can deal with that, i go on holiday 18th july!!

Fingers crossed.
Good luck and keep us all informed.